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What about Microsoft edge?

by dnndev 5y ago

hnbad 5y ago
In my humble opinion if you're using Windows 10 there's no reason not to use Edge because you're already allowing Microsoft to invade your privacy. But Firefox is a good browser and "morally" a better choice for many reasons others have already summarized. Personally I use Edge as a developer because it's a Chromium browser (so it reflects most of my users' experience and works with a lot of tooling developed for Chrome), I already use Windows 10 and VS Code and it comes preinstalled. But I used Firefox between the initial release of Quantum and the release of the new Edge browser and while there are both benefits and drawbacks to its dev tooling, it's definitely a good browser and purely on a quality/UX level I see no reason not to use Firefox.
- gkbrk 5y ago
  > if you're using Windows 10 there's no reason not to use Edge because you're already allowing Microsoft to invade your privacy If Edge was still using its own layout engine, I would agree with this. But even on Windows 10, by using Edge you not only trust Microsoft, but also help Google's takeover and control of the internet. Using Safari, Internet Explorer, Links, Firefox or Serenity Browser all help a bit by reducing the Google browser marketshare. Using Brave, Edge, Vivaldi or Opera still help, but to a much smaller degree.
- MayeulC 5y ago
  > In my humble opinion if you're using Windows 10 there's no reason not to use Edge because you're already allowing Microsoft to invade your privacy. Oh, serving them your browsing history on a silver plate isn't really the same as letting them infer it from the scraps they could get from other browsers.
why_Mr_Anderson 5y ago
The moment MS surrendered to Google and adopted Chromium was the last momment when using Edge made even slightest sense. Why choose lesser evil?
Yizahi 5y ago
You mean Google Chrome Edge?
- Spivak 5y ago
  This seems a little silly. Nobody calls it Google Chrome Vivaldi or Google Chrome Brave. Why the hate for Edge?
  - Yizahi 5y ago
    Google Chrome Vivaldi or Google Chrome Brave - these are completely correct names, until they will fork Blink and start making different decisions from Chrome. I mean really different, not just setting different defaults in the code Google provides, like with Floc. PS: and speaking of Chrome mods - Edge is arguably the better one out of all of them. At least with MS we know their policies and main source of revenue, unlike with Brave or Vivaldi.
    - gcthomas 5y ago
      Vivaldi uses the Blink rendering engine from the Chromium project, itself just a fork of WebKit, but the application code is not from Chrome or Chromium (no code comes from Chrome, AFAIK.) So 'Google Blink Vivaldi' at best.
      - Yizahi 5y ago
        Chromium is an extremely convenient excuse for Google, but we all know that it is nothing more than a trailing version of Chrome with some modifications. Chromium is not a hard fork of Chrome and never was. Every significant change Google wants appears there too. Yes code, does come into Chromium first but that's just and extra step, meaningless really. Google carefully checks that anti monopoly laws wouldn't affect their second main cash cow.
- ernesth 5y ago
  Are you removing the infamous microsoft name to make it more frightening? Microsoft is terrible. Google is bad. Combining them in a browser was an evil achievement.

What about Microsoft edge?

by dnndev 5y ago

What about Microsoft edge?

In my humble opinion if you're using Windows 10 there's no reason not to use Edge because you're already allowing Microsoft to invade your privacy. But Firefox is a good browser and "morally" a better choice for many reasons others have already summarized. Personally I use Edge as a developer because it's a Chromium browser (so it reflects most of my users' experience and works with a lot of tooling developed for Chrome), I already use Windows 10 and VS Code and it comes preinstalled. But I used Firefox between the initial release of Quantum and the release of the new Edge browser and while there are both benefits and drawbacks to its dev tooling, it's definitely a good browser and purely on a quality/UX level I see no reason not to use Firefox.

gkbrk 5y ago
> if you're using Windows 10 there's no reason not to use Edge because you're already allowing Microsoft to invade your privacy If Edge was still using its own layout engine, I would agree with this. But even on Windows 10, by using Edge you not only trust Microsoft, but also help Google's takeover and control of the internet. Using Safari, Internet Explorer, Links, Firefox or Serenity Browser all help a bit by reducing the Google browser marketshare. Using Brave, Edge, Vivaldi or Opera still help, but to a much smaller degree.
MayeulC 5y ago
> In my humble opinion if you're using Windows 10 there's no reason not to use Edge because you're already allowing Microsoft to invade your privacy. Oh, serving them your browsing history on a silver plate isn't really the same as letting them infer it from the scraps they could get from other browsers.

why_Mr_Anderson 5y ago

The moment MS surrendered to Google and adopted Chromium was the last momment when using Edge made even slightest sense. Why choose lesser evil?

Yizahi 5y ago

You mean Google Chrome Edge?

Spivak 5y ago
This seems a little silly. Nobody calls it Google Chrome Vivaldi or Google Chrome Brave. Why the hate for Edge?
- Yizahi 5y ago
  Google Chrome Vivaldi or Google Chrome Brave - these are completely correct names, until they will fork Blink and start making different decisions from Chrome. I mean really different, not just setting different defaults in the code Google provides, like with Floc. PS: and speaking of Chrome mods - Edge is arguably the better one out of all of them. At least with MS we know their policies and main source of revenue, unlike with Brave or Vivaldi.
  - gcthomas 5y ago
    Vivaldi uses the Blink rendering engine from the Chromium project, itself just a fork of WebKit, but the application code is not from Chrome or Chromium (no code comes from Chrome, AFAIK.) So 'Google Blink Vivaldi' at best.
    - Yizahi 5y ago
      Chromium is an extremely convenient excuse for Google, but we all know that it is nothing more than a trailing version of Chrome with some modifications. Chromium is not a hard fork of Chrome and never was. Every significant change Google wants appears there too. Yes code, does come into Chromium first but that's just and extra step, meaningless really. Google carefully checks that anti monopoly laws wouldn't affect their second main cash cow.
ernesth 5y ago
Are you removing the infamous microsoft name to make it more frightening? Microsoft is terrible. Google is bad. Combining them in a browser was an evil achievement.