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To bypass this filter, Google SSH Tunneling. Overseas servers are cheap. This is the beginning of the end. I'm seriously considering moving overseas.

by xavoy 15y ago

jacques_chester 15y ago
Nah, Senator Fielding will only be in the Senate for a few more weeks. After him the Greens will hold the balance of power. Personally I think they're mostly loons, but they "get" the internet better than the major parties.
Maxious 15y ago
Or switch to Internode/iiNet ho oppose internet censorship aswell as being cheaper in some cases and support powerusers well (ipv6, adjusting your line's DSLAM profile for lower ping or higher reliability and letting you run servers on any port
- endgame 15y ago
  They are required to block some usenet groups, though: http://www.internode.on.net/residential/product_features/premium_usenet/#What_groups_does_the_Australian http://www.internode.on.net/residential/product_features/pre...
dorian-graph 15y ago
If you route /all/ traffic on your computer through SSH, are there any downsides? Like, latency or some sites restricting you from accessing (Sounds silly, I know, as the idea is to have open access to all websites but I thought it may be a possibility), online multiplayer, etc? Or would it be more reasonable to route only select data like HTTP, FTP and email? I s'pose any instant-messaging too..
- dzderic 15y ago
  Try something like OpenVPN which uses UDP, which in my experience is much faster than a SSH tunnel.
- morganpyne 15y ago
  Actually, this came up recently here on HN, referring to a rather old article entitled "Why TCP Over TCP Is A Bad Idea". Discussion and link to original article here: http://apps.ycombinator.com/item?id=2409090 http://apps.ycombinator.com/item?id=2409090 Bottom line; use UDP for your tunnels and a proper VPN.
  - dorian-graph 15y ago
    Thank you for the link!
vacri 15y ago
The main article is talking about blacklist filtering, not content inspection of any kind. There already was blacklist filtering and has been for years - when I signed up to the very awesome Internode (2007?), in their t's and c's there was a statement saying that there was a very small number of websites that they were forbidden by law to provide (route? resolve? can't recall), all from a government blacklist, and "you really wouldn't want to know what's on these websites"(ie: child porn). Internode is one of the good guys and Simon Hackett (owner) is huge on net neutrality - he will only restrict where the law demands it. But honestly, moving overseas because of introduction of internet censorship? Why not campaign against it instead? Are there other things that disturb you here, or were you perhaps not being serious when you said you were 'seriously considering'? If freedom of speech is what interests you, the RSF places Australia as having more freedom of speech than the UK, the US, and Canada. NZ and Ireland rate higher, so you may want to emigrate to one of those, but beware that the economies of both those places might make it tough to find a job. If you're a polyglot, you've got a bit more choice: http://en.rsf.org/press-freedom-index-2010,1034.html http://en.rsf.org/press-freedom-index-2010,1034.html
- csbutler 15y ago
  Are you sure it was a website blacklist and not a newsgroup blacklist?
  - vacri 15y ago
    No, not sure. What stuck in my mind was the particular phrase "you don't want to see what's on these [sites? groups?] anyway" and not the thing being blocked. I'm happy to be corrected here.

To bypass this filter, Google SSH Tunneling. Overseas servers are cheap. This is the beginning of the end. I'm seriously considering moving overseas.

by xavoy 15y ago

To bypass this filter, Google SSH Tunneling. Overseas servers are cheap. This is the beginning of the end. I'm seriously considering moving overseas.

jacques_chester 15y ago

Nah, Senator Fielding will only be in the Senate for a few more weeks. After him the Greens will hold the balance of power. Personally I think they're mostly loons, but they "get" the internet better than the major parties.

Maxious 15y ago

Or switch to Internode/iiNet ho oppose internet censorship aswell as being cheaper in some cases and support powerusers well (ipv6, adjusting your line's DSLAM profile for lower ping or higher reliability and letting you run servers on any port

endgame 15y ago
They are required to block some usenet groups, though: http://www.internode.on.net/residential/product_features/premium_usenet/#What_groups_does_the_Australian http://www.internode.on.net/residential/product_features/pre...

dorian-graph 15y ago

If you route /all/ traffic on your computer through SSH, are there any downsides? Like, latency or some sites restricting you from accessing (Sounds silly, I know, as the idea is to have open access to all websites but I thought it may be a possibility), online multiplayer, etc? Or would it be more reasonable to route only select data like HTTP, FTP and email? I s'pose any instant-messaging too..

dzderic 15y ago
Try something like OpenVPN which uses UDP, which in my experience is much faster than a SSH tunnel.
morganpyne 15y ago
Actually, this came up recently here on HN, referring to a rather old article entitled "Why TCP Over TCP Is A Bad Idea". Discussion and link to original article here: http://apps.ycombinator.com/item?id=2409090 http://apps.ycombinator.com/item?id=2409090 Bottom line; use UDP for your tunnels and a proper VPN.
- dorian-graph 15y ago
  Thank you for the link!

vacri 15y ago

The main article is talking about blacklist filtering, not content inspection of any kind. There already was blacklist filtering and has been for years - when I signed up to the very awesome Internode (2007?), in their t's and c's there was a statement saying that there was a very small number of websites that they were forbidden by law to provide (route? resolve? can't recall), all from a government blacklist, and "you really wouldn't want to know what's on these websites"(ie: child porn). Internode is one of the good guys and Simon Hackett (owner) is huge on net neutrality - he will only restrict where the law demands it. But honestly, moving overseas because of introduction of internet censorship? Why not campaign against it instead? Are there other things that disturb you here, or were you perhaps not being serious when you said you were 'seriously considering'? If freedom of speech is what interests you, the RSF places Australia as having more freedom of speech than the UK, the US, and Canada. NZ and Ireland rate higher, so you may want to emigrate to one of those, but beware that the economies of both those places might make it tough to find a job. If you're a polyglot, you've got a bit more choice: http://en.rsf.org/press-freedom-index-2010,1034.html http://en.rsf.org/press-freedom-index-2010,1034.html

csbutler 15y ago
Are you sure it was a website blacklist and not a newsgroup blacklist?
- vacri 15y ago
  No, not sure. What stuck in my mind was the particular phrase "you don't want to see what's on these [sites? groups?] anyway" and not the thing being blocked. I'm happy to be corrected here.