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While travelling in Cuba 2 friends and I hired a cab to drive us to Viñales from Havana - we ended up in a stretch Lada! Front ⅔ of 1 car, back ⅔ of another. F

While travelling in Cuba 2 friends and I hired a cab to drive us to Viñales from Havana - we ended up in a stretch Lada! Front ⅔ of 1 car, back ⅔ of another. Felt very unsafe but we got there

throwaway0a5e 6y ago
>Felt very unsafe but we got there I'm pretty sure 99.999% of HN would say the same thing about a normal Lada.
- jodrellblank 6y ago
  You've signed up with a throwaway account and started the last three comments I've read in this thread with a sneering "I'm pretty sure screeching HN/Reddit morons would think X but I know better"; it's against the HN guidelines to comment in that style: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html "In Comments Don't be snarky. [...] Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. Eschew flamebait. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents. Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle."
  - imwillofficial 6y ago
    That was a joke, and I loled. I don’t even know what a lada is and I still laughed.
    - jodrellblank 6y ago
      Ladas are(were) Eastern European Soviet block cars, with a reputation for being cheap and low quality, and in the UK, a low social status indicator used to mock people[1]. The joke could be that a Lada is already an unsafe car so a stretch-Lada can't be any worse (the joke is that you say one Lada is unsafe but actually they are ALL unsafe, ha ha). But then it doesn't need any mention of "99.999% of HN". The joke could instead be that Ladas are safe enough, the stretch Lada was probably safe enough, and the thing to laugh at is the 99.999% of HN who can't judge the safety of cars, or naively aren't used to a world outside their Silicon Valley spafe-space luxury. i.e. it's a sneering putdown at HN users and nothing to do with Ladas per-se. Given the context of the last two comments I read by throwaway account starting with sneering at HN and Reddit users, and the need to specify "99.999% of HN users would say X", I lean towards this interpretation. That doesn't mean you can't find it a hilarious witty comment, sneering at some "inferior" group is a popular thing people laugh at. (Weirdly?[1]) You might find it a funny joke, and it might be sneering and against the guidelines, both at the same time. "I loled" isn't sufficient to say it's on-topic, you should be arguing that it wasn't sneering. Better again, arguing that it was within the spirit of the guidelines more than the letter of them; just jokes alone are not against the guidelines explicitly but are frequently frowned on. Sneerclub and status grabbing are my own personal soupnazi topics of the moment; once you see comments where the main purpose is to sneer at how dumb some large disparate group is, or the flip-side to claim status as a superior, you see them everywhere. e.g. these two just seen in tabs I have open: - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26821673 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26821673 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26822285 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26822285 both where the point is to call someone dumb/inferior. (And e.g. much of my internet commenting history, tbh) [1] (is it more social signalling than humour?)
      - throwaway0a5e 6y ago
        My point was that even a normal Lada is going to feel like a tin can compared to what most people here have as their frame of reference. I'm not sure why anyone found that offensive. In retrospect I like the "stretch Lada is 5/3 as safe as normal Lada" line of reasoning better.
      - imwillofficial 6y ago
        Thank you for your in depth reply! Considering the author responded with His intention, it seems you have read the tea leaves wrong on intended meaning.

While travelling in Cuba 2 friends and I hired a cab to drive us to Viñales from Havana - we ended up in a stretch Lada! Front ⅔ of 1 car, back ⅔ of another. Felt very unsafe but we got there

throwaway0a5e 6y ago

>Felt very unsafe but we got there I'm pretty sure 99.999% of HN would say the same thing about a normal Lada.

jodrellblank 6y ago
You've signed up with a throwaway account and started the last three comments I've read in this thread with a sneering "I'm pretty sure screeching HN/Reddit morons would think X but I know better"; it's against the HN guidelines to comment in that style: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html "In Comments Don't be snarky. [...] Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. Eschew flamebait. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents. Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle."
- imwillofficial 6y ago
  That was a joke, and I loled. I don’t even know what a lada is and I still laughed.
  - jodrellblank 6y ago
    Ladas are(were) Eastern European Soviet block cars, with a reputation for being cheap and low quality, and in the UK, a low social status indicator used to mock people[1]. The joke could be that a Lada is already an unsafe car so a stretch-Lada can't be any worse (the joke is that you say one Lada is unsafe but actually they are ALL unsafe, ha ha). But then it doesn't need any mention of "99.999% of HN". The joke could instead be that Ladas are safe enough, the stretch Lada was probably safe enough, and the thing to laugh at is the 99.999% of HN who can't judge the safety of cars, or naively aren't used to a world outside their Silicon Valley spafe-space luxury. i.e. it's a sneering putdown at HN users and nothing to do with Ladas per-se. Given the context of the last two comments I read by throwaway account starting with sneering at HN and Reddit users, and the need to specify "99.999% of HN users would say X", I lean towards this interpretation. That doesn't mean you can't find it a hilarious witty comment, sneering at some "inferior" group is a popular thing people laugh at. (Weirdly?[1]) You might find it a funny joke, and it might be sneering and against the guidelines, both at the same time. "I loled" isn't sufficient to say it's on-topic, you should be arguing that it wasn't sneering. Better again, arguing that it was within the spirit of the guidelines more than the letter of them; just jokes alone are not against the guidelines explicitly but are frequently frowned on. Sneerclub and status grabbing are my own personal soupnazi topics of the moment; once you see comments where the main purpose is to sneer at how dumb some large disparate group is, or the flip-side to claim status as a superior, you see them everywhere. e.g. these two just seen in tabs I have open: - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26821673 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26821673 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26822285 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26822285 both where the point is to call someone dumb/inferior. (And e.g. much of my internet commenting history, tbh) [1] (is it more social signalling than humour?)
    - throwaway0a5e 6y ago
      My point was that even a normal Lada is going to feel like a tin can compared to what most people here have as their frame of reference. I'm not sure why anyone found that offensive. In retrospect I like the "stretch Lada is 5/3 as safe as normal Lada" line of reasoning better.
    - imwillofficial 6y ago
      Thank you for your in depth reply! Considering the author responded with His intention, it seems you have read the tea leaves wrong on intended meaning.