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That is very cool! I think the double-presses and three-button presses are pushing it for usability. I wonder if there is a version where you can keep the gen

That is very cool! I think the double-presses and three-button presses are pushing it for usability. I wonder if there is a version where you can keep the general form and idea and increase the ease-of-use. I'm thinking add a 5th side-key and a second top-key and use the top ones solely as toggle, not as letters. This way you have 3*5 keys total and fill in the rest with a predictive model, maybe? Or how about a layout with a second side-key column on the side that faces outward. You'd get 2*10 keys with just those columns and the toggle (or 3*10 with double toggles).

lolinder 6y ago
Using a predictive model would be awful for the inspiration use case (must keep eye contact with the patient), but probably more convenient for most others. Personally, I'd rather have the chords than have toggles—a keyboard should really be stateless. Even the existing rarely used states (num lock, caps lock) do more to cause me frustration than help.
- ad404b8a372f2b9 6y ago
  Sorry I was unclear, by toggle I meant more like shift than capslock, you have to keep pressing don't know what's the correct terminology for those kind of keys.
jmiskovic 6y ago
I would propose four standard keys on side and a thumbstick on the top. Thumbstick is easy to operate and has at least 8 discernible directions, plus 8 half-pushes. That's more combinations than you realistically need so maybe you could relieve the pinky finger and use just 3 buttons.
- ad404b8a372f2b9 6y ago
  Uh that's a great idea. Imma try to pop out a version with a joystick over the week-end.
StavrosK 6y ago
There are keyboards where each finger goes into four (five) switches, one on each side, but I imagine some combinations will be impossible to type without the keyboard being stationary relative to the hand.
- ad404b8a372f2b9 6y ago
  Oh I've seen those (these https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/gsj4n4/im_getting_pretty_damn_close_to_endgame/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/gsj4n4/im_gett... right?) but they seem completely unusable.
  - StavrosK 6y ago
    Yep! That sort of thing. I don't know, some people swear by them.

lolinder 6y ago

Using a predictive model would be awful for the inspiration use case (must keep eye contact with the patient), but probably more convenient for most others. Personally, I'd rather have the chords than have toggles—a keyboard should really be stateless. Even the existing rarely used states (num lock, caps lock) do more to cause me frustration than help.

ad404b8a372f2b9 6y ago
Sorry I was unclear, by toggle I meant more like shift than capslock, you have to keep pressing don't know what's the correct terminology for those kind of keys.

jmiskovic 6y ago

I would propose four standard keys on side and a thumbstick on the top. Thumbstick is easy to operate and has at least 8 discernible directions, plus 8 half-pushes. That's more combinations than you realistically need so maybe you could relieve the pinky finger and use just 3 buttons.

ad404b8a372f2b9 6y ago
Uh that's a great idea. Imma try to pop out a version with a joystick over the week-end.

StavrosK 6y ago

There are keyboards where each finger goes into four (five) switches, one on each side, but I imagine some combinations will be impossible to type without the keyboard being stationary relative to the hand.

ad404b8a372f2b9 6y ago
Oh I've seen those (these https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/gsj4n4/im_getting_pretty_damn_close_to_endgame/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/gsj4n4/im_gett... right?) but they seem completely unusable.
- StavrosK 6y ago
  Yep! That sort of thing. I don't know, some people swear by them.