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Not sure if large car companies or clothes manufacturers (just two examples of large companies) were ever able to ignore legal rights of their customers. This h

by dx034 6y ago

Not sure if large car companies or clothes manufacturers (just two examples of large companies) were ever able to ignore legal rights of their customers. This has only become possible with digital services where companies refuse to acknowledge local laws and regulation.

halfdan 6y ago
Car companies selling cars exceeding allowed emission levels and clothes manufacturers exploiting child labour in third world countries? Sure there were "fines" but as usual that was pocket change them..
- varispeed 6y ago
  Cost of doing business factored in the product price...
blowski 6y ago
For most of history, customers didn't have the kind of legal rights they have now. Businesses could refuse to serve you, warranties were non-existent until late 1800s. And even when consumers did get rights, there have been constant stories in newspapers of "big companies trampling on the rights of consumers".
kube-system 6y ago
If you want an example of ignoring local law, how about the East India Company? They formed their own army, took over part of India, and set up their own government.
- blowski 6y ago
  Exactly. If "putting innocent people in chains and enslaving them in a foreign country" doesn't count as ignoring people's legal rights, I'm not sure what does.
pjc50 6y ago
> clothes manufacturers (just two examples of large companies) were ever able to ignore legal rights of their customers Clothes manufacturers have been notorious for mistreating their employees, though; e.g. Triangle Shirtwaist.
gumby 6y ago
> Not sure if large car companies or clothes manufacturers (just two examples of large companies) were ever able to ignore legal rights of their customers. Ha, check out “unsafe at any speed” the book that launched Ralph Nader and the government’s role in consumer safety. Or “The Jungle”, the book that launched food safety regulations (and some worker safety) a century ago. Certain politicians and certain companies decry “regulation” generically but there are good reasons behind almost all of it.

by dx034 6y ago

halfdan 6y ago

Car companies selling cars exceeding allowed emission levels and clothes manufacturers exploiting child labour in third world countries? Sure there were "fines" but as usual that was pocket change them..

varispeed 6y ago
Cost of doing business factored in the product price...

blowski 6y ago

For most of history, customers didn't have the kind of legal rights they have now. Businesses could refuse to serve you, warranties were non-existent until late 1800s. And even when consumers did get rights, there have been constant stories in newspapers of "big companies trampling on the rights of consumers".

kube-system 6y ago

If you want an example of ignoring local law, how about the East India Company? They formed their own army, took over part of India, and set up their own government.

blowski 6y ago
Exactly. If "putting innocent people in chains and enslaving them in a foreign country" doesn't count as ignoring people's legal rights, I'm not sure what does.

pjc50 6y ago

> clothes manufacturers (just two examples of large companies) were ever able to ignore legal rights of their customers Clothes manufacturers have been notorious for mistreating their employees, though; e.g. Triangle Shirtwaist.

gumby 6y ago

> Not sure if large car companies or clothes manufacturers (just two examples of large companies) were ever able to ignore legal rights of their customers. Ha, check out “unsafe at any speed” the book that launched Ralph Nader and the government’s role in consumer safety. Or “The Jungle”, the book that launched food safety regulations (and some worker safety) a century ago. Certain politicians and certain companies decry “regulation” generically but there are good reasons behind almost all of it.