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I can't agree on the moderation. The bias in favor of Apple is extreme. I genuinely don't know if the mods are actively paid off, if Apple astroturfs, or whate

I can't agree on the moderation. The bias in favor of Apple is extreme. I genuinely don't know if the mods are actively paid off, if Apple astroturfs, or whatever. But it seems those threads are disingenuous. It's impossible to form evidence because good criticism of Apple is often deleted. Meanwhile other threads are dumpster fires.

confidantlake 6y ago
There was an article about bad service at apple stores. I commented that I had mostly positive experiences. Was downvoted.
- cgriswald 6y ago
  There’s a similar dynamic on Nextdoor in my neighborhood. You’re basically not allowed to disagree with the OP. Commenters will say things like “this isn’t the place for it” without addressing the content or actual appropriateness. Usually you’ll be drown out by a bunch of “compassionate” posts or stupid questions[0] as well. If you want to disagree with someone you can start your own post and many of the same people will “protect” your post from disagreement as well. It’s basically impossible to have an actual discussion in that environment. [0] - Stupid as in the answer to their question is literally in the text of the post they’re responding to in the first place.
- everybodyknows 6y ago
  This is clearly a minority opinion, but in my view well-stated factual anecdotes that the majority find uncomfortable deserve upvote, always. But that's not what they get, not even here on HN. The high karma threshold is helpful, but I doubt raising it further would do much. Some qualitatively different vetting mechanism is wanted. Thought about the problem a lot, but so far reached only a few inchoate notions.
dang 6y ago
People with the opposite view see the opposite "extreme" bias. It's basically entirely in the eye of the beholder. What's odd is how common it is, and how absolutely people are convinced that their particular strain of these contradictory generalizations is the accurate one.
- biasKillsHN 6y ago
  That's not what I'm referring to. I see political topics better debated and I'm radical. It's just Apple comment threads. You know dang.
  - busymom0 6y ago
    Just yesterday there was a post with high engagement and criticism of Apple's App Store: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26794228 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26794228

confidantlake 6y ago

There was an article about bad service at apple stores. I commented that I had mostly positive experiences. Was downvoted.

cgriswald 6y ago
There’s a similar dynamic on Nextdoor in my neighborhood. You’re basically not allowed to disagree with the OP. Commenters will say things like “this isn’t the place for it” without addressing the content or actual appropriateness. Usually you’ll be drown out by a bunch of “compassionate” posts or stupid questions[0] as well. If you want to disagree with someone you can start your own post and many of the same people will “protect” your post from disagreement as well. It’s basically impossible to have an actual discussion in that environment. [0] - Stupid as in the answer to their question is literally in the text of the post they’re responding to in the first place.
everybodyknows 6y ago
This is clearly a minority opinion, but in my view well-stated factual anecdotes that the majority find uncomfortable deserve upvote, always. But that's not what they get, not even here on HN. The high karma threshold is helpful, but I doubt raising it further would do much. Some qualitatively different vetting mechanism is wanted. Thought about the problem a lot, but so far reached only a few inchoate notions.

dang 6y ago

People with the opposite view see the opposite "extreme" bias. It's basically entirely in the eye of the beholder. What's odd is how common it is, and how absolutely people are convinced that their particular strain of these contradictory generalizations is the accurate one.

biasKillsHN 6y ago
That's not what I'm referring to. I see political topics better debated and I'm radical. It's just Apple comment threads. You know dang.
- busymom0 6y ago
  Just yesterday there was a post with high engagement and criticism of Apple's App Store: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26794228 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26794228