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You do not need to. Let's assume that the universe operates on one to an infinite number of rules. Could be one, could be 137, could be a Googleplex. Let us
by at_a_remove 6y ago
You do not need to.
Let's assume that the universe operates on one to an infinite number of rules. Could be one, could be 137, could be a Googleplex. Let us imagine that the number of rules when "rolling" a universe is equally distributed.
The question I pose to you is ... where on the that list do you think it would be more fruitful to start? You could throw your hands up and say "Could be anywhere!" but that isn't a great use of your time.
Instead, you posit a single rule, you try it out, and then there's an exception. This rule worked half the time! That is excellent. This is more likely to occur at the lower end of the rules-scale than the upper end of the scale, after all, simply because you have more things to try the more rules you have.
Could be that only a single rule exists, but it is not likely out of infinity, and so you start there because you can find out the exceptions faster than anywhere else.
Then you move on to two rules. Two rules seems to explain quite a lot! But not everything ...
You can witness this in how classical electromagnetism was constructed from first one rule with some exceptions, and then extended. In a similar manner, you can see how we need more sensitive and complex equipment to test for the existence of exceptions, like that muon magnetic moment requiring rather a lot to pick up.
Following this process will lead you to a lower bound on the number of rules, but never an upper bound, because eventually you are deconstructing galaxies to build particle accelerators and experiments take a billion years to run. We'll eventually say "Good enough for 99.9999999999999% of the cases" and leave it at that.
- ssivark 6y agoThis idea is very similar to Solomnoff induction, which is fine, but... what stops a more “powerful” entity designing a simulation from “counting backwards from infinity”? The crux of your argument seems to be that we can’t (currently) think of any other way to do it.
- at_a_remove 6y agoI think my argument focuses more on pragmatism. As an example, I had a database I had to investigate with just ... nasty data. Really filthy. Multiple things compounded into a single field, and so on and so forth. One field in particular I needed to decode for the process. So I tried a regular expression and it mostly worked on the first ten. But then it failed. And I looked at the case that failed and scanned for other incidents, and now I had two expressions to try. And I looked at hundred instances, and it mostly worked, but there were some exceptions. This went on until I had ten sets of "rules" to cover all four million of that field. It's not elegant, it probably isn't the fastest, but it starts at the bottom and works its way forward.
- alexvoda 6y agoBy counting backwards from infinity you stay at infinity.