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Yeah but the CCP then controls that first island chain and easily squeeze off Japan and SK. US carriers are kept far away by stationing missiles on Taiwan. Thus

Yeah but the CCP then controls that first island chain and easily squeeze off Japan and SK. US carriers are kept far away by stationing missiles on Taiwan. Thus they can continually stake out control. The US investing in the Chinese "pie" is useless because they're just feeding the CCP more. CCP will use the power to take over the world. US companies would get eaten by the Chinese companies and US gov would be taken over from within, once mainstream and social media is taken over by CCP hands.

dragonelite 5y ago
See the US losing is not really my problem, the current cold war was started some years ago and only the future will tell how this will end. Taiwan will hardly add to the Chinese ant ship missile shield, putting more space assets in the region will offer a more accurate kill chain. I wouldn't be surprised that South Korea is already in the Eurasian camp or at least neutral there's a reason they are not part of the quad. Don't listen to words look for the actions of each player, because words are cheap but actions aren't. But don't be afraid of China taking over US cyberspace, I wouldn't be surprised that the Anglo-Europeans will build their Hadrian fire wall. To keep the Eurasian troll armies out of their part of the cyber world. This might all grow out of the clean network initiative.
- randomopining 5y ago
  Ok but if the CCP is authoritarian and takes control of everything, it will be your problem. Unless you are part of the CCP, or just a troll.
  - dragonelite 5y ago
    The king is dead, long live the King... For most non westerns nothing will really change if the king sits in Washington or Beijing. If you think it does you have been drowned in US propaganda. Maybe the biggest historical difference is that Beijing builds, and Washington bombs cities in the global south.
    - randomopining 5y ago
      Hah, you clearly don't have a balanced view. US doesn't install pure puppet oligarchs and mass surveillance tech. CCP does whatever it takes to expand economic influence and tighten their autocratic control. TLDR: CCP doesn't answer to the people. US gov at least has open elections. I agree that at this moment, a poor person in central africa should not care 1% between US and CCP. But for their descendants, yes they should care.

dragonelite 5y ago

See the US losing is not really my problem, the current cold war was started some years ago and only the future will tell how this will end. Taiwan will hardly add to the Chinese ant ship missile shield, putting more space assets in the region will offer a more accurate kill chain. I wouldn't be surprised that South Korea is already in the Eurasian camp or at least neutral there's a reason they are not part of the quad. Don't listen to words look for the actions of each player, because words are cheap but actions aren't. But don't be afraid of China taking over US cyberspace, I wouldn't be surprised that the Anglo-Europeans will build their Hadrian fire wall. To keep the Eurasian troll armies out of their part of the cyber world. This might all grow out of the clean network initiative.

randomopining 5y ago
Ok but if the CCP is authoritarian and takes control of everything, it will be your problem. Unless you are part of the CCP, or just a troll.
- dragonelite 5y ago
  The king is dead, long live the King... For most non westerns nothing will really change if the king sits in Washington or Beijing. If you think it does you have been drowned in US propaganda. Maybe the biggest historical difference is that Beijing builds, and Washington bombs cities in the global south.
  - randomopining 5y ago
    Hah, you clearly don't have a balanced view. US doesn't install pure puppet oligarchs and mass surveillance tech. CCP does whatever it takes to expand economic influence and tighten their autocratic control. TLDR: CCP doesn't answer to the people. US gov at least has open elections. I agree that at this moment, a poor person in central africa should not care 1% between US and CCP. But for their descendants, yes they should care.