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In all decentralized solutions I've seen, they always seem to effectively become roundabout centralized solutions. No matter how "decentralized" something is, c

by d0100 5y ago

In all decentralized solutions I've seen, they always seem to effectively become roundabout centralized solutions. No matter how "decentralized" something is, cost is the great centralizer: you can always be excluded either by the cost of running your decentralized hub or by network effects of being blacklisted in free "decentralized" centralized servers I think that the real decentralized solutions can only happen when the cost of "I'm going to build my own with blackjack and hookers" is free or at least until the price is embedable into "usual" costs, like if your phone could become your decentralized, always-available hub

raarts 5y ago
So, 10 -20 years. Prices will have come down enough for every household to host ALL their own data in their router. And offer interested parties API access. And host distributed social platforms.
- Mediterraneo10 5y ago
  Running a server from your home violates the terms of service of many ISPs (they want you to upgrade to a more expensive business plan for that). I’m not sure that is going to change in 10–20 years. Nor do I think router storage space is going to get significantly larger in the next decade, at least not in terms of being able to host large videos.
  - busymom0 5y ago
    It probably depends upon which ISP you have and how "big" or "small" they are. I know 3 families who run their own servers from the home internet plan. Though they use it mostly from small sites and not for anything big/commercial.
  - rijoja 5y ago
    Which ISPs are doing this?
- hansel_der 5y ago
  having been on this line of thinking for the last two decades and not seeing it happen, i'm not optimistic it ever will. one could easily have ~10TB of storage connected to the router for about the yearly cost of the connection itself, but only a small minority does.
  - raarts 5y ago
    Because it's too complicated. If this would just be inside every router that would make a huge difference.

by d0100 5y ago

raarts 5y ago

So, 10 -20 years. Prices will have come down enough for every household to host ALL their own data in their router. And offer interested parties API access. And host distributed social platforms.

Mediterraneo10 5y ago
Running a server from your home violates the terms of service of many ISPs (they want you to upgrade to a more expensive business plan for that). I’m not sure that is going to change in 10–20 years. Nor do I think router storage space is going to get significantly larger in the next decade, at least not in terms of being able to host large videos.
- busymom0 5y ago
  It probably depends upon which ISP you have and how "big" or "small" they are. I know 3 families who run their own servers from the home internet plan. Though they use it mostly from small sites and not for anything big/commercial.
- rijoja 5y ago
  Which ISPs are doing this?
hansel_der 5y ago
having been on this line of thinking for the last two decades and not seeing it happen, i'm not optimistic it ever will. one could easily have ~10TB of storage connected to the router for about the yearly cost of the connection itself, but only a small minority does.
- raarts 5y ago
  Because it's too complicated. If this would just be inside every router that would make a huge difference.