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I would like to ask the same question to Email.

by anoncake 6y ago

gaws 6y ago
Elaborate.
- anoncake 6y ago
  Question to Email: What are you doing to curb the ever-growing number of white supremacists using your platform?
  - gaws 6y ago
    Your initial response was confusing. You should've just said: "Email them your question," or something to that extent. Regardless, I get what you mean.
    - ripdog 6y ago
      I think you got it wrong :) He means that the same criticisms of white supremacists using a platform could be leveled at the protocol of email.
onion2k 6y ago
Are you suggesting that a significant use for email could be communication between white supremacists? It's probably less than 0.0001% of all emails sent. On the other hand, if PeerTube is used to host a lot of pro-facist video content made by racists that could be a problem for PeerTube. It's an existential threat to the technology. If governments and ISPs see it as predominantly used for that then they'll ban it. If more legitimate users see it being used for that then they'll stop peering video content and it'll become much less useful. PeerTube will live or die by the network effect it needs to be effective. Guarding against the "wrong" users, or at least marketing it so that more of the "right" users join, is essential. Nothing about that is a judgement on the content or the users; it's the simple reality of developing technology in a society full of different opinions.
- atat7024 6y ago
  You're going to crucify an emerging technology for being where edge groups congregate, even though that's that's been the MO of the Internet since BBS days?!
  - remexre 6y ago
    Some technologies (e.g. Secure Scuttlebutt) have the ability for subgroups to exist without aggressively recommending content to every user, as an inherent property of their design; I think "should Peertube adopt some aspects of these designs" is a valid question.
theamk 6y ago
Email is purely point to point though, it cannot be used to discover new content. The mailing lists exist, but they are separate entities, not related to email providers or email protocols. In contrast, https://joinpeertube.org/ https://joinpeertube.org/ recommends videos on front page, and you can find offensive (to some) videos in 2 clicks.

I would like to ask the same question to Email.

gaws 6y ago

Elaborate.

anoncake 6y ago
Question to Email: What are you doing to curb the ever-growing number of white supremacists using your platform?
- gaws 6y ago
  Your initial response was confusing. You should've just said: "Email them your question," or something to that extent. Regardless, I get what you mean.
  - ripdog 6y ago
    I think you got it wrong :) He means that the same criticisms of white supremacists using a platform could be leveled at the protocol of email.

onion2k 6y ago

Are you suggesting that a significant use for email could be communication between white supremacists? It's probably less than 0.0001% of all emails sent. On the other hand, if PeerTube is used to host a lot of pro-facist video content made by racists that could be a problem for PeerTube. It's an existential threat to the technology. If governments and ISPs see it as predominantly used for that then they'll ban it. If more legitimate users see it being used for that then they'll stop peering video content and it'll become much less useful. PeerTube will live or die by the network effect it needs to be effective. Guarding against the "wrong" users, or at least marketing it so that more of the "right" users join, is essential. Nothing about that is a judgement on the content or the users; it's the simple reality of developing technology in a society full of different opinions.

atat7024 6y ago
You're going to crucify an emerging technology for being where edge groups congregate, even though that's that's been the MO of the Internet since BBS days?!
- remexre 6y ago
  Some technologies (e.g. Secure Scuttlebutt) have the ability for subgroups to exist without aggressively recommending content to every user, as an inherent property of their design; I think "should Peertube adopt some aspects of these designs" is a valid question.

theamk 6y ago

Email is purely point to point though, it cannot be used to discover new content. The mailing lists exist, but they are separate entities, not related to email providers or email protocols. In contrast, https://joinpeertube.org/ https://joinpeertube.org/ recommends videos on front page, and you can find offensive (to some) videos in 2 clicks.