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I'm happy this exists and I scan it every time it is posted. These days I feel like there is more value in curation than an exhaustive list.. There is just to

I'm happy this exists and I scan it every time it is posted. These days I feel like there is more value in curation than an exhaustive list.. There is just too much on here and a lot of it not of super great quality for me to want to take the time to try a lot of things.. I would probably get more value out of a list that had the best overall 1 or 2 from each category on this list, and even a "best standouts from all categories" would be cool.

Syonyk 6y ago
Or even, "Most recent commit" information. I've run across plenty of interesting looking projects, last commit 7 years ago, README.md references Ubuntu 12.04 LTS as the preferred platform... Could I make that work? Probably, if I cared enough. Do I want to? Not unless I can't find something newer and similar enough.
- jjav 6y ago
  Depends on the type of tool of course, but some tools are done and all bugs are fixed. There is no need for continuous commits if a tool is complete and functional. One of the CLI tools I use every day (minor filesystem management tool, written by me for me) hasn't had a commit since 1991. But I use it every single day, it does what it needs to do.
chewmieser 6y ago
Agreed. There's a lot of noise in massive software lists like this although they can be a very useful starting point. Perhaps more useful would be a feature matrix for each section of this repo so you can determine the "best" ones at-a-glance (since best is subjective based on your particular needs). Still a great start!
zelon88 6y ago
I like how it portrays projects without being judge jury and executioner. Most of these projects are works in progress. It would not be fair to exclude them in favor of projects with larger budgets and internal marketing.
- awill 6y ago
  that's a strange thing to say. Sure it's great for in-progress projects to get visibility, but as a ready/user, it will waste my time if I just want something that's ready/usable right now, and end up trying a bunch of unfinished projects.
  - zelon88 6y ago
    How do you think projects get finished? I wrote a competitor to OwnCloud and NextCloud that took years of working by myself to make. With no budget by myself. Obviously the quality isn't quite as polished as my competition. By your logic only OwnCloud and NextCloud should be allowed on here. Despite both of them having their own marketing budget they promote with. They should get to come into aggregate lists and boot out the little guy.
    - akiselev 6y ago
      > How do you think projects get finished? Projects that fail to attracts users tend to do even worse at attracting developers because there are always going to be far more users than developers.
      - zelon88 6y ago
        Some projects are aimed at higher level users of whom and outsized portion could be developers. Some products are meant to be unbranded products for integration into business products. Some products prioritize different things. For example, all of my products internalize fonts and scripts so they are truly self hosted. My competition doesn't do that. They host scripts on CDNs and utilize Google fonts. On some networks, particularly air gapped intranets or offline locahosts, that won't work. By passing objective judgement on the contents of the list, you're dictating to the audience the factors that you think should be important to them rather than showing them all factors and letting them choose what they believe is important.
- nucleardog 6y ago
  Going the opposite direction though, it would be nice if they separated or at least listed some general indicator of activity for the projects. Some of the projects haven't seen any significant work for 5+ years. In some areas that might be fine (projects can be "done") so it's not automatically an indicator of being abandoned, but level of activity and whether the maintainer is still merging PRs is usually the first thing I look at when I'm deciding which of a few options on the list I'm going to dig into further.
sparsely 6y ago
Agreed. The nice thing about AWS is that they normally have at most a couple of different services that do what you're looking for, and you can be reasonably confident that they will work well and play nicely with all your other AWS hosted services.
aidenn0 6y ago
Even a simple what's good/bad about each one would be fine. I'm okay wading through a list of 12 items if there is some way for me to tell what distinguishes them from each other.
qbasic_forever 6y ago
This is a good podcast that effectively curates and discusses interesting self-hosted applications: https://selfhosted.show/ https://selfhosted.show/
- opk 6y ago
  They tend to be overly positive of things like netdata and plex that are selfhosted but with closed cloud components. They also talk a lot about home assistant. And generally give thew impression that they have a short attention span, are always looking for shiny new and never have issues like the latest nextcloud upgrade breaking.
  - qbasic_forever 6y ago
    I've been listening since the start and don't share any of those perceptions, FWIW.
  - colecut 6y ago
    I got tired of managing my own nextcloud instance and now use a storage share box with Hetzner which is powered by NextCloud. Now it seems to just work all the time.
atat7024 6y ago
That's not the point of this list. Now you search one to three from category you're looking for to see what smart people are blogging about/what people are using who are accomplishing what you want to accomplish with that tool.
- colecut 6y ago
  Yes, I'm just pointing out that there is a lot of opportunity to make the data that is already presented here in one place a lot more useful. I would probably be more helpful if i actually tried to do something about it.

Syonyk 6y ago

Or even, "Most recent commit" information. I've run across plenty of interesting looking projects, last commit 7 years ago, README.md references Ubuntu 12.04 LTS as the preferred platform... Could I make that work? Probably, if I cared enough. Do I want to? Not unless I can't find something newer and similar enough.

jjav 6y ago
Depends on the type of tool of course, but some tools are done and all bugs are fixed. There is no need for continuous commits if a tool is complete and functional. One of the CLI tools I use every day (minor filesystem management tool, written by me for me) hasn't had a commit since 1991. But I use it every single day, it does what it needs to do.

chewmieser 6y ago

Agreed. There's a lot of noise in massive software lists like this although they can be a very useful starting point. Perhaps more useful would be a feature matrix for each section of this repo so you can determine the "best" ones at-a-glance (since best is subjective based on your particular needs). Still a great start!

zelon88 6y ago

I like how it portrays projects without being judge jury and executioner. Most of these projects are works in progress. It would not be fair to exclude them in favor of projects with larger budgets and internal marketing.

awill 6y ago
that's a strange thing to say. Sure it's great for in-progress projects to get visibility, but as a ready/user, it will waste my time if I just want something that's ready/usable right now, and end up trying a bunch of unfinished projects.
- zelon88 6y ago
  How do you think projects get finished? I wrote a competitor to OwnCloud and NextCloud that took years of working by myself to make. With no budget by myself. Obviously the quality isn't quite as polished as my competition. By your logic only OwnCloud and NextCloud should be allowed on here. Despite both of them having their own marketing budget they promote with. They should get to come into aggregate lists and boot out the little guy.
  - akiselev 6y ago
    > How do you think projects get finished? Projects that fail to attracts users tend to do even worse at attracting developers because there are always going to be far more users than developers.
    - zelon88 6y ago
      Some projects are aimed at higher level users of whom and outsized portion could be developers. Some products are meant to be unbranded products for integration into business products. Some products prioritize different things. For example, all of my products internalize fonts and scripts so they are truly self hosted. My competition doesn't do that. They host scripts on CDNs and utilize Google fonts. On some networks, particularly air gapped intranets or offline locahosts, that won't work. By passing objective judgement on the contents of the list, you're dictating to the audience the factors that you think should be important to them rather than showing them all factors and letting them choose what they believe is important.
nucleardog 6y ago
Going the opposite direction though, it would be nice if they separated or at least listed some general indicator of activity for the projects. Some of the projects haven't seen any significant work for 5+ years. In some areas that might be fine (projects can be "done") so it's not automatically an indicator of being abandoned, but level of activity and whether the maintainer is still merging PRs is usually the first thing I look at when I'm deciding which of a few options on the list I'm going to dig into further.

sparsely 6y ago

Agreed. The nice thing about AWS is that they normally have at most a couple of different services that do what you're looking for, and you can be reasonably confident that they will work well and play nicely with all your other AWS hosted services.

aidenn0 6y ago

Even a simple what's good/bad about each one would be fine. I'm okay wading through a list of 12 items if there is some way for me to tell what distinguishes them from each other.

qbasic_forever 6y ago

This is a good podcast that effectively curates and discusses interesting self-hosted applications: https://selfhosted.show/ https://selfhosted.show/

opk 6y ago
They tend to be overly positive of things like netdata and plex that are selfhosted but with closed cloud components. They also talk a lot about home assistant. And generally give thew impression that they have a short attention span, are always looking for shiny new and never have issues like the latest nextcloud upgrade breaking.
- qbasic_forever 6y ago
  I've been listening since the start and don't share any of those perceptions, FWIW.
- colecut 6y ago
  I got tired of managing my own nextcloud instance and now use a storage share box with Hetzner which is powered by NextCloud. Now it seems to just work all the time.

atat7024 6y ago

That's not the point of this list. Now you search one to three from category you're looking for to see what smart people are blogging about/what people are using who are accomplishing what you want to accomplish with that tool.

colecut 6y ago
Yes, I'm just pointing out that there is a lot of opportunity to make the data that is already presented here in one place a lot more useful. I would probably be more helpful if i actually tried to do something about it.