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Where are people escaping to? Are people publishing their own content on Gopher or BitTorrent nowadays? These platforms have a perfect balance of usability and

Where are people escaping to? Are people publishing their own content on Gopher or BitTorrent nowadays? These platforms have a perfect balance of usability and freedom. They can take over the world.

Balgair 6y ago
It seems like they are making their own sites. Nebula is one such place where a few of the higher quality content creators are going. I've no idea if it'll work, but they are trying. https://watchnebula.com/ https://watchnebula.com/
- CameronNemo 6y ago
  The problem with these techniques is discover ability. How do you build an online audience without paying google for advertisements?
  - dane-pgp 6y ago
    Then perhaps the solution isn't for politicians to demand that YouTube be separated from Google/Alphabet, but instead demand that users on YouTube be able to discover videos on other sites. I see no reason why the search feature within YouTube couldn't return videos that people were hosting on their personal sites or on competitors to YouTube (including Twitch VODs and livestreams). Even subscriptions and recommendations could work across platforms. YouTube could still run adverts in/on the videos, and the revenue from that would be split with the site where the video was actually published. For a greater share of the ad revenue, YouTube could also offer to stream (a copy of) the video from their own servers. Even if sites (or Multi-Channel Networks) had to pay a $1000 fee to be included in this system, and YouTube kept its rules about moderation and demonetisation, it would still greatly improve discoverability and hopefully competition generally.
- leereeves 6y ago
  With a $5 monthly fee and no way to upload your own videos, Nebula is most directly competing against Netflix, not YouTube. A few top creators might be able to make that work, but most won't.
  - timbre1234 6y ago
    And no free trial w/o giving credit card info. Yeah, hard pass.
    - bradlys 6y ago
      That is very normal. It’s to prevent people from just creating accounts multiple times to never have to pay.
    - sillysaurusx 6y ago
      Use privacy.com. It's a godsend.
    - clankyclanker 6y ago
      A $20 gift card is great for those things. Then, it doesn’t matter whether you remember to cancel.
shakezula 6y ago
Patreon and Twitch seem to be doing a better job of handling content creators needs. I've seen a few who do everything on their own website, too, but that is less common for sure.

Where are people escaping to? Are people publishing their own content on Gopher or BitTorrent nowadays? These platforms have a perfect balance of usability and freedom. They can take over the world.

Balgair 6y ago

It seems like they are making their own sites. Nebula is one such place where a few of the higher quality content creators are going. I've no idea if it'll work, but they are trying. https://watchnebula.com/ https://watchnebula.com/

CameronNemo 6y ago
The problem with these techniques is discover ability. How do you build an online audience without paying google for advertisements?
- dane-pgp 6y ago
  Then perhaps the solution isn't for politicians to demand that YouTube be separated from Google/Alphabet, but instead demand that users on YouTube be able to discover videos on other sites. I see no reason why the search feature within YouTube couldn't return videos that people were hosting on their personal sites or on competitors to YouTube (including Twitch VODs and livestreams). Even subscriptions and recommendations could work across platforms. YouTube could still run adverts in/on the videos, and the revenue from that would be split with the site where the video was actually published. For a greater share of the ad revenue, YouTube could also offer to stream (a copy of) the video from their own servers. Even if sites (or Multi-Channel Networks) had to pay a $1000 fee to be included in this system, and YouTube kept its rules about moderation and demonetisation, it would still greatly improve discoverability and hopefully competition generally.
leereeves 6y ago
With a $5 monthly fee and no way to upload your own videos, Nebula is most directly competing against Netflix, not YouTube. A few top creators might be able to make that work, but most won't.
- timbre1234 6y ago
  And no free trial w/o giving credit card info. Yeah, hard pass.
  - bradlys 6y ago
    That is very normal. It’s to prevent people from just creating accounts multiple times to never have to pay.
  - sillysaurusx 6y ago
    Use privacy.com. It's a godsend.
  - clankyclanker 6y ago
    A $20 gift card is great for those things. Then, it doesn’t matter whether you remember to cancel.

shakezula 6y ago

Patreon and Twitch seem to be doing a better job of handling content creators needs. I've seen a few who do everything on their own website, too, but that is less common for sure.