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The original poster said, "If their students don't get a job, Lambda doesn't get paid." Absolutely nothing in your reply changes the fact Lambda is paid before

The original poster said, "If their students don't get a job, Lambda doesn't get paid." Absolutely nothing in your reply changes the fact Lambda is paid before the student gets a job. You're trying to change the topic to something you can wiggle through, and I refuse to engage. You were caught on tape lying about this, and I have no reason to believe you've stopped lying. https://soundcloud.com/vwoo/interview-with-austen-allred https://soundcloud.com/vwoo/interview-with-austen-allred

effingwewt 6y ago
Thank you! Allred constantly lies through his teeth and it makes me fucking rage. He spouts the same bullshit over and over. Lambda isnt free for the students, they pay, and here's Mr Disingenuous to claim he needs to get money to train students 'from somewhere' And not to mention he uses students to teach students! He can't even keep 'teachers' on board! Edit- males->makes.
- austenallred 6y ago
  We have nearly 200 full-time employees including many, many instructors (not to mention contractors). This is just not true.
  - effingwewt 6y ago
    As opposed to how many students? This is very much true, you are a known, proven liar, and your 'bootcamp' is beyond predatory. You lie about placements, you lie about your number of instructors, I will take the word of every one of your students over the PR speak you spout repeatedly.
    - austenallred 6y ago
      About 2,000 concurrent students. We are not profitable, so if it’s a scam it’s not a very good one. Nothing about Lambda School is predatory and I have never lied.
      - np32 6y ago
        > Nothing about Lambda School is predatory I think the PR vs actual results of Lambda is a big problem when a lot of complains on higher education are about the gap between the dream vision of what a degree does for you, vs reality. But fine. The complains about ISA are mostly unfair > I have never lied That's probably one of the things you should never say ever. People will find moments you were either not telling what turned out to be the truth, or were not accurate, and will paint you as totally dishonest.
splistud 6y ago
So you just pretend to not understand that getting a loan with the expectation of future payment as collateral is not the same thing as 'getting paid'? Sure, in your shoes I'd refuse to engage as well. I mean, how in the world could you explain this stance?
austenallred 6y ago
I’m responding to the assertion generally. The format of ISA financing has become more sophisticated over time, but the fact that our interests are entirely aligned with our students has never changed. If I take out a car loan for $20,000 I have not been paid $20,000. I have never lied about this. Not once. My words are taken out of context to try to make it seem like I lied, but I did not.

effingwewt 6y ago

Thank you! Allred constantly lies through his teeth and it makes me fucking rage. He spouts the same bullshit over and over. Lambda isnt free for the students, they pay, and here's Mr Disingenuous to claim he needs to get money to train students 'from somewhere' And not to mention he uses students to teach students! He can't even keep 'teachers' on board! Edit- males->makes.

austenallred 6y ago
We have nearly 200 full-time employees including many, many instructors (not to mention contractors). This is just not true.
- effingwewt 6y ago
  As opposed to how many students? This is very much true, you are a known, proven liar, and your 'bootcamp' is beyond predatory. You lie about placements, you lie about your number of instructors, I will take the word of every one of your students over the PR speak you spout repeatedly.
  - austenallred 6y ago
    About 2,000 concurrent students. We are not profitable, so if it’s a scam it’s not a very good one. Nothing about Lambda School is predatory and I have never lied.
    - np32 6y ago
      > Nothing about Lambda School is predatory I think the PR vs actual results of Lambda is a big problem when a lot of complains on higher education are about the gap between the dream vision of what a degree does for you, vs reality. But fine. The complains about ISA are mostly unfair > I have never lied That's probably one of the things you should never say ever. People will find moments you were either not telling what turned out to be the truth, or were not accurate, and will paint you as totally dishonest.

splistud 6y ago

So you just pretend to not understand that getting a loan with the expectation of future payment as collateral is not the same thing as 'getting paid'? Sure, in your shoes I'd refuse to engage as well. I mean, how in the world could you explain this stance?

austenallred 6y ago

I’m responding to the assertion generally. The format of ISA financing has become more sophisticated over time, but the fact that our interests are entirely aligned with our students has never changed. If I take out a car loan for $20,000 I have not been paid $20,000. I have never lied about this. Not once. My words are taken out of context to try to make it seem like I lied, but I did not.