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I think if you’re taking highly addictive stimulants and doing things you later acknowledge as unsafe like unprotected sex I would speculate something is going

I think if you’re taking highly addictive stimulants and doing things you later acknowledge as unsafe like unprotected sex I would speculate something is going wrong in your life that’s compelling you to participate in self destructive activities and that you should get help for the root causes of it.

hn_throwaway_99 6y ago
I disagree. Google "meth and sex", and pretty much everything you read will say that meth will make sex feel absolutely amazing. So it could be the case that, especially when people are young, they know the dangers but think "hey, I know myself, I can do it once or twice without getting addicted" The problem with meth is that it's so very addictive that you don't necessarily need to be in a pit of despair to get hooked.
- SamoyedFurFluff 6y ago
  Right, but my question then becomes why are young 20 somethings being exposed to meth without the support necessary to avoid taking it or not needing it in their lives? I was young, 20 something too, with access to meth— but I had more in my life than drugs, and I didn’t need it to party or have a good time, and I had mentors I could talk to about it. Is something going wrong where there are deeper problems here that the article isn’t addressing, is my question, because it’s not like drastic increases in meth-related diseases spontaneously appear in 20 year olds.
  - emodendroket 6y ago
    I really think a lot of young people going for a hedonistic sex and drugs lifestyle are simply being drawn for a very different reason than people in depressed Rust Belt towns.
  - hn_throwaway_99 6y ago
    I mean, it's been well studied that there is a surge in risk taking behaviors among late teen/early 20-something men across literally all human societies, which is why you see a spike in accidental death for this group. The problem is for most types of risk taking, if you survive it, you make it to be a late 20-something man and move on. With meth (and other drugs), it keeps you addicted.
standardUser 6y ago
Could there maybe be another explanation, such as that drugs and sex are incredibly, ridiculously and uniquely fun human experiences? That's my wild speculation.

hn_throwaway_99 6y ago

I disagree. Google "meth and sex", and pretty much everything you read will say that meth will make sex feel absolutely amazing. So it could be the case that, especially when people are young, they know the dangers but think "hey, I know myself, I can do it once or twice without getting addicted" The problem with meth is that it's so very addictive that you don't necessarily need to be in a pit of despair to get hooked.

SamoyedFurFluff 6y ago
Right, but my question then becomes why are young 20 somethings being exposed to meth without the support necessary to avoid taking it or not needing it in their lives? I was young, 20 something too, with access to meth— but I had more in my life than drugs, and I didn’t need it to party or have a good time, and I had mentors I could talk to about it. Is something going wrong where there are deeper problems here that the article isn’t addressing, is my question, because it’s not like drastic increases in meth-related diseases spontaneously appear in 20 year olds.
- emodendroket 6y ago
  I really think a lot of young people going for a hedonistic sex and drugs lifestyle are simply being drawn for a very different reason than people in depressed Rust Belt towns.
- hn_throwaway_99 6y ago
  I mean, it's been well studied that there is a surge in risk taking behaviors among late teen/early 20-something men across literally all human societies, which is why you see a spike in accidental death for this group. The problem is for most types of risk taking, if you survive it, you make it to be a late 20-something man and move on. With meth (and other drugs), it keeps you addicted.

standardUser 6y ago

Could there maybe be another explanation, such as that drugs and sex are incredibly, ridiculously and uniquely fun human experiences? That's my wild speculation.