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I downvoted because of the waft of moralism in your comment.

torstenvl 6y ago
Hi. Gay dude here. Please don't silence the voices calling my community out for bad behavior. There is a reason to have empathy for those who struggle with promiscuity and substance abuse. How long can you be told that your sex life belongs in the gutter and you don't deserve love, after all, before you begin to believe it yourself? But there isn't a reason to ignore those problems. They lead to social isolation and death for countless of us. We need the social structures, social support, and social expectations of stability and sobriety. The lack of these things leaves a trail of STIs, T overdoses, and abject loneliness in its wake.
- vidarh 6y ago
  There's a way to call it out, and it's with substantive comments like yours talking about the problem. On HN at least it's not with a one liner that stereotypes a whole group of people with drug use and irresponsible behaviour like the now-dead comment did. I for one flagged that comment not because it called out the problem, but for how it did it without contributing anything useful.
- zozbot234 6y ago
  > Please don't silence the voices calling my community out for bad behavior. Bad behavior should of course be called out, but there's no need to reference harmful stereotypes such as a supposed "gay (or 'homosexual') community". Many people with a same-sex orientation do not engage in problematic behavior of any sort.
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- kickout 6y ago
  Not sure if you're replying to me or the flagged comment, but I have no issues with anyone's sexual identity or choices. I downvoted the flagged comment because judging from the tone, that commenter DID have a problem with it.
FpUser 6y ago
Some opinions here feel dead wrong to me. Moralism included. However I did not downvote a single post on HN as I am a firm believer that this up/downvote culture leads to people adjusting their behavior to suit the average / PC and also leads to "mob lynching". It stands complete opposite to free speech in my opinion.
isoprophlex 6y ago
I interpreted that differently: no moralism but harsh objectivity. Granted, it's not the most empathetic response, but the gay scene has some very unhealthy subcultures. Drug-fueled disinhibition isn't healthy, and this syphilis outbreak goes to show it.
refurb 6y ago
Moralism? Or just moralism you disagree with? Because I assume you have morals.

Hi. Gay dude here. Please don't silence the voices calling my community out for bad behavior. There is a reason to have empathy for those who struggle with promiscuity and substance abuse. How long can you be told that your sex life belongs in the gutter and you don't deserve love, after all, before you begin to believe it yourself? But there isn't a reason to ignore those problems. They lead to social isolation and death for countless of us. We need the social structures, social support, and social expectations of stability and sobriety. The lack of these things leaves a trail of STIs, T overdoses, and abject loneliness in its wake.

vidarh 6y ago
There's a way to call it out, and it's with substantive comments like yours talking about the problem. On HN at least it's not with a one liner that stereotypes a whole group of people with drug use and irresponsible behaviour like the now-dead comment did. I for one flagged that comment not because it called out the problem, but for how it did it without contributing anything useful.
zozbot234 6y ago
> Please don't silence the voices calling my community out for bad behavior. Bad behavior should of course be called out, but there's no need to reference harmful stereotypes such as a supposed "gay (or 'homosexual') community". Many people with a same-sex orientation do not engage in problematic behavior of any sort.
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kickout 6y ago
Not sure if you're replying to me or the flagged comment, but I have no issues with anyone's sexual identity or choices. I downvoted the flagged comment because judging from the tone, that commenter DID have a problem with it.

FpUser 6y ago

Some opinions here feel dead wrong to me. Moralism included. However I did not downvote a single post on HN as I am a firm believer that this up/downvote culture leads to people adjusting their behavior to suit the average / PC and also leads to "mob lynching". It stands complete opposite to free speech in my opinion.

isoprophlex 6y ago

I interpreted that differently: no moralism but harsh objectivity. Granted, it's not the most empathetic response, but the gay scene has some very unhealthy subcultures. Drug-fueled disinhibition isn't healthy, and this syphilis outbreak goes to show it.

refurb 6y ago

Moralism? Or just moralism you disagree with? Because I assume you have morals.