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> so exports are a political non-starter ...in the US and the UK. In the end it's also a reflection of what is important to a nation. Should the strong help th
by akie 6y ago
> so exports are a political non-starter
...in the US and the UK. In the end it's also a reflection of what is important to a nation. Should the strong help the weak? Is it every man for themselves? Thank you for making my point.
I think pointing to "international organizations" to do something, when you could have done something yourself, is a weak argument.
- ghaff 6y agoWhy on earth would the US export when it's supply-constrained itself? Of course, the US can and will export once it has sufficient supply. But countries exist in large part to look after the self-interest of their own population. It would rightly be a complete political non-starter for the US to start shipping vaccines elsewhere while it still needed more doses domestically.
- akie 6y agoDon't you think Europe is supply-constrained? What about India/Russia/China? If these countries didn't export, Israel wouldn't have any vaccine, Australia wouldn't have any vaccine, Canada wouldn't have any vaccine, New Zealand wouldn't have any vaccine. And let's not even talk about the rest of the world. But yeah, it's inconvenient. I get it. Greed is good! Let them starve.
- hyko 6y agoWouldn’t the greedy thing be to export all the vaccines you produce for maximum profit?
- sudosysgen 6y agoEveryone is supply constrained. Actually, the US is probably the country that is the least supply constrained. Yet the EU and even India/China/Russia are exporting vaccines. This speaks a lot.
- hyko 6y agoThe strong should protect the weak; they still have to put their own oxygen mask on first though. Protecting your citizens is the first duty of government. There is a political failure here, but the domestic mass vaccination programs aren’t part of it.
- JetSetWilly 6y ago> in the US and the UK. In the end it's also a reflection of what is important to a nation. Should the strong help the weak? Is it every man for themselves? Thank you for making my point. The UK has no ban on vaccine exports. It is more accurately the case that nobody has ordered vaccines from the UK except for the UK itself, because the UK had absolutely zero vaccine manufacturing facilities. And of course it is factually false in any case: https://www.dw.com/en/australia-receives-astrazeneca-vaccines-through-uk-report/a-57129511 https://www.dw.com/en/australia-receives-astrazeneca-vaccine... The EU (after encouraging other countries to invest in facilities in the EU) changed its mind and interdicted vaccines going to Australia. So they got some manufactured from the UK instead. But somehow it is the UK that is the bad guy!