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So the points are are "Iran started the enmity" and "Iran is worse than the other countries." I have a hard time buying either. Wouldn't the nakba be the origin

by pradn 6y ago

So the points are are "Iran started the enmity" and "Iran is worse than the other countries." I have a hard time buying either. Wouldn't the nakba be the original source of enmity created by the state of Israel between it and the Muslim nations? In any case, who started it doesn't change the ground geopolitical realties that must be solved for us to achieve a world with active peace. I am absolutely no defender of the enormous amount of violence that Iran's supply of rebel groups and militias in the region has caused. But I have a hard time ranking these crimes, and their internal oppression vs Israel's apartheid state vs the Saudi's internal oppression and funding of militias and rebel groups vs the US's war in Iraq, where between half a million and a million people died. It's unclear to me what you mean by the "culture" of Iran? Do you mean their political religiosity? I don't find that a convincing source of differentiation between them and other countries in the region. Israeli Zionism, Saudi Wahabbism, etc.

recuter 6y ago
The point is Israel is not threatening Iran. The nakba has zilch to do with Iran, prior to the Ayatollahs (and even briefly at the start of their reign) there was no enmity. And world peace is certainly not the goal of the current Iranian regime. It is borderline willful ignorance to suggest that. > It's unclear to me what you mean by the "culture" of Iran? Do you mean their political religiosity? I don't find that a convincing source of differentiation between them and other countries in the region. Israeli Zionism, Saudi Wahabbism, etc. Why flaunt your ignorance? Certainly without equivocating to whatever your beliefs might be or getting bogged down in metaphysics and moralities or saying one is somehow better than the other, if you want to understand the geopolitics you need to be able to differentiate between them.

by pradn 6y ago

recuter 6y ago

The point is Israel is not threatening Iran. The nakba has zilch to do with Iran, prior to the Ayatollahs (and even briefly at the start of their reign) there was no enmity. And world peace is certainly not the goal of the current Iranian regime. It is borderline willful ignorance to suggest that. > It's unclear to me what you mean by the "culture" of Iran? Do you mean their political religiosity? I don't find that a convincing source of differentiation between them and other countries in the region. Israeli Zionism, Saudi Wahabbism, etc. Why flaunt your ignorance? Certainly without equivocating to whatever your beliefs might be or getting bogged down in metaphysics and moralities or saying one is somehow better than the other, if you want to understand the geopolitics you need to be able to differentiate between them.