Agree on all counts - I'm just saying that if you dislike losing to obvious spinbots, then FACEIT is much better - but still have many (less obvious) hackers.

Agree on all counts - I'm just saying that if you dislike losing to obvious spinbots, then FACEIT is much better - but still have many (less obvious) hackers. [On the topic of cheating, and as a comparison to CS:GO ... ] What's hilarious really is how common and in plain sight the Dota 2 cheats are: there are loads of cheat engines which people can even write their own Lua scripts to manage: and are hosted on Github. They have VK pages, customer support, registered companies, online reviews ... zero legal action taken against any of these companies that I'm aware of - and very limited work done to make the cheating more difficult.