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Which boils down to an entity in charge of deciding what is useful energy use and what is not. Do you want to live in a world like that? I don’t. Why is the g

• anyfoo 6y ago
  > Which boils down to an entity in charge of deciding what is useful energy use and what is not. Do you want to live in a world like that? I don’t. Of course I want to live in a world like that, just like I like living in a world where my neighbor is not allowed to just break into my house without consequences. Just like I like living in a world where people are not allowed to dump unbounded amounts of toxic waste into lakes and oceans. We have regulation for what's allowed in food. Are you okay with that? Or do you prefer becoming an expert at food sciences so that you can test yourself that a food brand isn't trying to sell you something poisonous as a cost cutting measure? > Why is the green solution to everything more prohibition and rules? Because otherwise greedy people with no concept or care of long or even mid term effects mess things up for everyone else, and even themselves. > What happened to believing in the future, in innovation and technology... That has never been the case without regulation. We made cars and airplanes, we added tomes of regulation to make sure cars and airplanes work well enough to keep the people dying directly from them at a minimum.
  • vimy 6y ago
    You are okay with the state deciding you can only watch 30 mins of TV per day and 30 min of playstation? You seem to think once we decide what is useful energy use and what is not, only the things you deem not useful will be affected.
    • anyfoo 6y ago
      What a weird straw-man. There is a whole spectrum for how regulation applies, it does not have to be the extreme you just made up. The same applies to everything. In a drought for example water usage has to be regulated, and by your reasoning I can go along and say: "You are okay with the state deciding you can only drink 1 gallon of water every day, and use 2 gallons for showering?"--even if the actual regulation is much more forthcoming. If I wasted all energy available to us both on growing poisonous fruit that smells bad, would you object to that? Oh, but doing so would be deciding what is useful and what is not!
      • vimy 6y ago
        It’s an extreme example to point out that what’s useful energy use for someone isn’t for someone else. Who will decide? You might not like the result when we go down this path.
        • anyfoo 6y ago
          Yes. If the alternative is a climate catastrophe, I will have to accept that. Again, the same applies to everything. You might not find a regulation about how much mercury is allowed in food items necessary or even "useful", but I, and many other people, are glad it exists.
      • nemo44x 6y ago
        Got it - the won’t ban the things you like.
• arcticbull 6y ago
  > Which boils down to an entity in charge of deciding what is useful energy use and what is not. Do you want to live in a world like that? I don’t. You already do because here in reality resources are constrained. > Why is the green solution to everything more prohibition and rules? What happened to believing in the future, in innovation and technology... The green solution is to build technologies that become more efficient as people use them not less.