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I mostly like Gnome. I have been using it for years. But the development team of Gnome is so closed minded that it makes my head hurt. I asked on the bug track

I mostly like Gnome. I have been using it for years. But the development team of Gnome is so closed minded that it makes my head hurt. I asked on the bug tracker if Evince could have a tabs feature, so I can have 10 pdfs open in one Evince window. They asked me to cite a usability study showing that it would objectively improve user experience.

axaxs 6y ago
That's really weird, considering things like gedit and gnome-terminal are tabbed. Perhaps ask them to get the usability study from those guys :).
- clircle 6y ago
  "The concept of Evince is one document, one window"
  - hedora 6y ago
    Cite a usability experiment showing that sharing user interface paradigms between applications on the same system helps usability. :-)
    - alxlaz 6y ago
      "The concept of Evince is one document, one window"
      - eecc 6y ago
        This is becoming Reddit :P
        alxlaz 6y ago
        Sometimes there is simply no better way to convey one's ideas :-D.
  - gowld 6y ago
    Wish they'd just say they don't want to do it than trot out a pompous question-begging rationale.
martey 6y ago
It's clearly unreasonable for a developer to ask a bug reporter to cite a usability study out of the blue. However, I don't think it's unreasonable for a developer to do so if the person commenting explicitly claims that not having a feature hurts usability: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evince/-/issues/182#note_383754 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evince/-/issues/182#note_3837...
- gowld 6y ago
  An N=1 study is a study.
- ad404b8a372f2b9 6y ago
  I find it unreasonable in this case as well, just like when people ask for studies during the course of a conversation. It cuts the conversation short and it brings nothing to the table, at worst people will come up with studies they haven't read and that often neither side is equipped to critically interpret and analyze (and doing so would take hours or days of work for an expert). To me it's a falsely scientific method of discourse, I'd rather have people elaborate on their personal opinion and use case than anything like this.
lobstrosity420 6y ago
If you want a laugh, duck for the thread where the developers debate how to implement .epub format in Evince before ultimately deciding that Evince doesn't actually need to be able to open the most popular ebook format in the world.
- nelsonenzo 6y ago
  I like your usage of the word duck.
hedora 6y ago
Can they cite a usability study suggesting any of the changes they made from gnome 2 to gnome 3 (or current) were not major regressions to the user experience?

axaxs 6y ago

That's really weird, considering things like gedit and gnome-terminal are tabbed. Perhaps ask them to get the usability study from those guys :).

clircle 6y ago
"The concept of Evince is one document, one window"
- hedora 6y ago
  Cite a usability experiment showing that sharing user interface paradigms between applications on the same system helps usability. :-)
  - alxlaz 6y ago
    "The concept of Evince is one document, one window"
    - eecc 6y ago
      This is becoming Reddit :P
      - alxlaz 6y ago
        Sometimes there is simply no better way to convey one's ideas :-D.
- gowld 6y ago
  Wish they'd just say they don't want to do it than trot out a pompous question-begging rationale.

martey 6y ago

It's clearly unreasonable for a developer to ask a bug reporter to cite a usability study out of the blue. However, I don't think it's unreasonable for a developer to do so if the person commenting explicitly claims that not having a feature hurts usability: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evince/-/issues/182#note_383754 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evince/-/issues/182#note_3837...

gowld 6y ago
An N=1 study is a study.
ad404b8a372f2b9 6y ago
I find it unreasonable in this case as well, just like when people ask for studies during the course of a conversation. It cuts the conversation short and it brings nothing to the table, at worst people will come up with studies they haven't read and that often neither side is equipped to critically interpret and analyze (and doing so would take hours or days of work for an expert). To me it's a falsely scientific method of discourse, I'd rather have people elaborate on their personal opinion and use case than anything like this.

lobstrosity420 6y ago

If you want a laugh, duck for the thread where the developers debate how to implement .epub format in Evince before ultimately deciding that Evince doesn't actually need to be able to open the most popular ebook format in the world.

nelsonenzo 6y ago
I like your usage of the word duck.

hedora 6y ago

Can they cite a usability study suggesting any of the changes they made from gnome 2 to gnome 3 (or current) were not major regressions to the user experience?