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Interesting. What is "real world use" for you? I bought my daughter an M1 Air for Christmas, she is a university student that mostly does written work in Word,

Interesting. What is "real world use" for you? I bought my daughter an M1 Air for Christmas, she is a university student that mostly does written work in Word, research (so mostly web and PDF stuff) and obviously video conferences right now. She has no trouble getting 13-15 hours of uni work done (a little less if a lot of video calls). Compared to the 2018 Air it replaced she says it is "insane". Although battery life is great it isn't a huge deal for her. The thing she loves the most is no fan noise when on video calls. This was actually the reason I bought it for her as she constantly complained about how loud the old Air was as soon as Zoom started up.

smoldesu 6y ago
"Real world" for me is working on lightweight container tech and it involves a couple VMs at a time. I also normally keep Spotify or Discord open, and I also have Nextcloud open since it doesn't natively support syncing to it. Combined, this workflow is a disaster for ARM. My $300 T460s actually manages to stay cooler on the same workload.
- satysin 6y ago
  Ah yes that makes more sense. Are these containers and VMs native or running under Rosetta 2? I use VMware Fusion a lot on my Intel MBP but haven't had a look at virtualisation on the M1 just yet. Waiting for it to mature a little more.
  - smoldesu 6y ago
    They're all native, to the best of my ability. Obviously Docker and ARM go together like toothpaste and peanut butter, so it's not I went into this expecting good performance (don't even get me started on stability though...)
    - satysin 6y ago
      Very interesting. Thanks for taking the time to reply, I am always interested to hear different use cases to my own. Hopefully things improve as Apple Silicon becomes better supported over the next few months.
- shp0ngle 6y ago
  Ah... containers (if you mean Docker) is the one area where M1 doesn't really excel. You got all the virtualization and all the emulation. On Windows side... uhh I am not sure what is Docker using, if WSL or WSL2, or something else. But will probably be better for that usage.

smoldesu 6y ago

"Real world" for me is working on lightweight container tech and it involves a couple VMs at a time. I also normally keep Spotify or Discord open, and I also have Nextcloud open since it doesn't natively support syncing to it. Combined, this workflow is a disaster for ARM. My $300 T460s actually manages to stay cooler on the same workload.

satysin 6y ago
Ah yes that makes more sense. Are these containers and VMs native or running under Rosetta 2? I use VMware Fusion a lot on my Intel MBP but haven't had a look at virtualisation on the M1 just yet. Waiting for it to mature a little more.
- smoldesu 6y ago
  They're all native, to the best of my ability. Obviously Docker and ARM go together like toothpaste and peanut butter, so it's not I went into this expecting good performance (don't even get me started on stability though...)
  - satysin 6y ago
    Very interesting. Thanks for taking the time to reply, I am always interested to hear different use cases to my own. Hopefully things improve as Apple Silicon becomes better supported over the next few months.
shp0ngle 6y ago
Ah... containers (if you mean Docker) is the one area where M1 doesn't really excel. You got all the virtualization and all the emulation. On Windows side... uhh I am not sure what is Docker using, if WSL or WSL2, or something else. But will probably be better for that usage.