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Nice to see! And glad they are...gasp...listening to people. The Gnome devs could learn a lot from that approach. The most popular distros all include a dock
by axaxs 6y ago
Nice to see! And glad they are...gasp...listening to people. The Gnome devs could learn a lot from that approach. The most popular distros all include a dock. And yet with Gnome 40, they not only refused to add a dock, they moved what gimped dock they had to the bottom of the screen. But you can't see it until you hit the top left corner. I wish I was making that up. (keyboard shortcuts aside, in fairness)
Rant aside, I'll definitely give it this a go. PopOS is a really nice distro.
- toomanyducks 6y agoTo be pedantic, you can see the dash/dock when you hit the super key, I don't believe anyone actually uses the hot corner. Also to be pedantic, there are plenty of desktops that don't use a dock, in the form of most window managers. I'm currently running opnebox with no dock and it's totally fine, though the approach is better suited to tiling window managers.
- s3tz 6y agoIt's a completely unnecessary extra action the completely breaks your flow.
- JeremyNT 6y agoI'm a GNOME user and almost never use its dock directly. I have my typical programs added as favorites on the dock and switch to them directly via keyboard with meta + 1 through meta + 9. Seldom used applications don't make that cut, but they're... seldom used. I tend to switch to them using alt-tab rather than clicking through on the dock. In general, I prefer using the keyboard, so I have never once wished that a dock was more prominent in GNOME. I'm glad it stays out of my way until I explicitly summon it with a keypress.
- ThatMedicIsASpy 6y agoThe power of window managers. Use whatever floats your boat. I love i3wm too much and its the exact reason I love Linux
- turbinerneiter 6y agoFunny, the hot corner is my favourite thing in Gnome. I like the dock on the left of my screen and I'm happy that there is ways so everyone can customize this the way they want.
- elisaado 6y agoSame here, I find myself swinging my mouse to the top left whenever I am helping my mother on her laptop with Windows.
- jeroenhd 6y agoI love the hot corner. In some distributions this behaviour is disabled and I always turn it back on to the point that I automatically make the gesture on other operating systems as well. When I'm browsing on my laptop, I often end up with my finger on the touchpad. A quick swipe to the top left is quicker than moving my hand to the super key. On desktop, a low-precision swing of the mouse is also quicker than moving my fingers to the super key. I don't get the hate the hot corner gets. All in all, I honestly don't really care about the changes they made to the dock. As long as my shortcut buttons work, I can deal with some small changes if they improve the polish of the system overall. I like the Gnome aesthetics that improve with every version, so I'm open to the tweaks made in Gnome 40.
- kaba0 6y agoI find the new thee-finger swipe really cool and intuitive.
- stereolambda 6y agoWhen you say 'dock', do you mean the top bar? Well, that would be a development. If you mean a menu of application icons at the bottom, I never had that in GNOME 3 on Fedora. I actually like GNOME 3 as a desktop: the streamlined process of hitting the Super key or moving the mouse toward the corner and typing in the application name that I want to launch, with the whole screen used for the preview. I also never put anything on the desktop (as in icons, files etc.). Even saying this I get strange flashbacks to 2000s computing. What pushed me away from it at the end (to KDE) was the applications. The trend in GNOME is clearly removing or at best hiding everything except the barest minimum required for pretending we have an app. At some point it shifts from very annoying to unusable. And now I'm putting up with KDE's own weirdnesses, like insisting on creating a cryptographic wallet for everything, or broken hibernation on desktop (a.k.a. big people computer). I hope it's just standard Linux jank and not sign of decline of the space.
- clircle 6y agoI mostly like Gnome. I have been using it for years. But the development team of Gnome is so closed minded that it makes my head hurt. I asked on the bug tracker if Evince could have a tabs feature, so I can have 10 pdfs open in one Evince window. They asked me to cite a usability study showing that it would objectively improve user experience.
- axaxs 6y agoThat's really weird, considering things like gedit and gnome-terminal are tabbed. Perhaps ask them to get the usability study from those guys :).
- christophilus 6y agoI use gnome as my daily driver. Was OSX previously. Now, I can’t stand the wasted real estate of a dock. I really love Gnome, so maybe they’re listening to some of us and not to others.
- axaxs 6y agoI think most people just want the option. I don't want to force a dock on you. I also don't want you to force a barren wasteland on me. That's what I liked about this design shown in the video, it's all optional!
- christophilus 6y agoYou can get a dock on Gnome via any number of plugins. Manjaro ships with one out of the box, if I recall.
- silisili 6y agoNone currently work well on Gnome 40. Leaving such basic, widely used things to third parties, it is what's bound to happen. Dash to panel in particular breaks often because of Gnome changes.
- mixmastamyk 6y agoNo dock thanks. But I like the menu to open on corner and super key.
- thereddaikon 6y agoSeems recently the Gnome team have been too busy demanding RMS' cancellation to listen to their userbase. That's clearly more important work than, you know, actually writing good open source software. Although I know some who would say Gnome has never been good. Opinions on DEs can be pretty harsh.