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Oh no problem at all -- I think it's a great counterpoint to closed ecosystems like Signal and Discord which are actively hostile to third party clients. If yo

Oh no problem at all -- I think it's a great counterpoint to closed ecosystems like Signal and Discord which are actively hostile to third party clients. If you don't like Electron, you're free to choose an alternative desktop client like Fractal (https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Fractal https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Fractal) or NeoChat (https://invent.kde.org/network/neochat https://invent.kde.org/network/neochat) or Nheko (https://github.com/Nheko-Reborn/nheko https://github.com/Nheko-Reborn/nheko). Or on the mobile side, FluffyChat (https://fluffychat.im/ https://fluffychat.im/) and Nio (https://nio.chat/ https://nio.chat/) are both solid alternatives. If you're coming from IRC, there's a WeeChat plugin (https://github.com/poljar/weechat-matrix https://github.com/poljar/weechat-matrix) or a standalone terminal client called Gomuks (https://github.com/tulir/gomuks https://github.com/tulir/gomuks). It's still early days, but Element is genuinely committed to Matrix's success as an open protocol, and I find the community enthusiasm to be very encouraging.

ncmncm 6y ago
Last I saw, Fractal did not support E2ee. Did that change? And, are Nheko or Neochat mature enough for a daily driver? Lasy I saw they were very alpha.
- Arathorn 6y ago
  Fractal just switched to matrix-rust-sdk, which supports E2EE - but they are currently switching from GTK 3 to GTK 4, which is delaying things. Nheko is certainly usable as a daily driver. Haven't tried NeoChat yet, but it looks good. However, everyone's thresholds are different.
  - ncmncm 6y ago
    Thank you. I did not mean to be snippy, before. I have found instructions to reverse-proxy matrix service, which satisfies my need for a minimal cloud presence and private (behind enforced NAT) homeserver. Combined with p2p via SQLite dendrite, that might solve my whole problem. (Is Dendrite considered ready for personal use, e.g. p2p, even if not a replacement for Synapse? What should I watch out for?) I have not found details about identity portability vs. Synapse version. Can identity be ported out of a Synapse 1.29 homeserver? We always wish software was ready before it is.

ncmncm 6y ago

Last I saw, Fractal did not support E2ee. Did that change? And, are Nheko or Neochat mature enough for a daily driver? Lasy I saw they were very alpha.

Arathorn 6y ago
Fractal just switched to matrix-rust-sdk, which supports E2EE - but they are currently switching from GTK 3 to GTK 4, which is delaying things. Nheko is certainly usable as a daily driver. Haven't tried NeoChat yet, but it looks good. However, everyone's thresholds are different.
- ncmncm 6y ago
  Thank you. I did not mean to be snippy, before. I have found instructions to reverse-proxy matrix service, which satisfies my need for a minimal cloud presence and private (behind enforced NAT) homeserver. Combined with p2p via SQLite dendrite, that might solve my whole problem. (Is Dendrite considered ready for personal use, e.g. p2p, even if not a replacement for Synapse? What should I watch out for?) I have not found details about identity portability vs. Synapse version. Can identity be ported out of a Synapse 1.29 homeserver? We always wish software was ready before it is.