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Yes? The lack of a workable window manager is one of the biggest things that prevents me from using a Linux laptop as a daily driver. It makes sense that Syst

by mulmen 6y ago

Yes? The lack of a workable window manager is one of the biggest things that prevents me from using a Linux laptop as a daily driver. It makes sense that System76 would work toward a serviceable Linux desktop OS. For the same reason it makes sense that Apple develops MacOS but charges no license fees.

noir_lord 6y ago
Cinnamon is brilliant, it’s been my main choice since I moved from XFCE, it’s a modern version of the classic desktop. For me it’s more serviceable than anything else but as always ymmv but as a developer desktop that I do all my computing on Fedora Cinnamon is damn close to perfect, there is little I can think of to improve it.
- bigger_cheese 6y ago
  I Use Cinnamon on Fedora as well. I agree with you serviceable is a good way to describe it. It is no frills and does what I want.
  - noir_lord 6y ago
    Yep - they've nailed the "Just give me a classic desktop but make it feel modern" the workspace switcher, alt tab behaviour, expose stuff, it's all modern but it also just works and stays out the way. It's really excellent if you want your desktop to be..a desktop.
mixedCase 6y ago
"a workable window manager" sounds to me like you just mean "I want a macOS clone and I don't want to learn anything else even if it's more efficient". If I got it wrong, I'd recommend sway or any other tiling wm that adapts perfectly to laptop limitations of 1 screen and no mouse included.
- kitsunesoba 6y ago
  Desktop workflow is a highly personal thing. I've tried to make tiling WMs work numerous times but it never sticks, I always go back to a more traditional floating-first setup with titlebars and the like.
- zepto 6y ago
  Right but to be fair to the parent - tiling window managers are the only kind that are superior to the Mac, and they are simply not to everyone’s preference.
  - danans 6y ago
    The benefits of tiling window managers are mostly realized when you use them with a very structured workflow. For example, one project per screen/desktop. I use i3 this way and I dedicate one desktop per patch I am working on, including the editor (vim in my case) and the the command line for the git branch. Without such rigor, they can end up being more cumbersome and confusing than a traditional window manager. For the same reason, I specifically don't use a tiling wm for less structured tasks (i.e web surfing) because it would be too annoying otherwise. I so still tile all the windows in my traditional wm though.

by mulmen 6y ago

noir_lord 6y ago

Cinnamon is brilliant, it’s been my main choice since I moved from XFCE, it’s a modern version of the classic desktop. For me it’s more serviceable than anything else but as always ymmv but as a developer desktop that I do all my computing on Fedora Cinnamon is damn close to perfect, there is little I can think of to improve it.

bigger_cheese 6y ago
I Use Cinnamon on Fedora as well. I agree with you serviceable is a good way to describe it. It is no frills and does what I want.
- noir_lord 6y ago
  Yep - they've nailed the "Just give me a classic desktop but make it feel modern" the workspace switcher, alt tab behaviour, expose stuff, it's all modern but it also just works and stays out the way. It's really excellent if you want your desktop to be..a desktop.

mixedCase 6y ago

"a workable window manager" sounds to me like you just mean "I want a macOS clone and I don't want to learn anything else even if it's more efficient". If I got it wrong, I'd recommend sway or any other tiling wm that adapts perfectly to laptop limitations of 1 screen and no mouse included.

kitsunesoba 6y ago
Desktop workflow is a highly personal thing. I've tried to make tiling WMs work numerous times but it never sticks, I always go back to a more traditional floating-first setup with titlebars and the like.
zepto 6y ago
Right but to be fair to the parent - tiling window managers are the only kind that are superior to the Mac, and they are simply not to everyone’s preference.
- danans 6y ago
  The benefits of tiling window managers are mostly realized when you use them with a very structured workflow. For example, one project per screen/desktop. I use i3 this way and I dedicate one desktop per patch I am working on, including the editor (vim in my case) and the the command line for the git branch. Without such rigor, they can end up being more cumbersome and confusing than a traditional window manager. For the same reason, I specifically don't use a tiling wm for less structured tasks (i.e web surfing) because it would be too annoying otherwise. I so still tile all the windows in my traditional wm though.