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Maybe have a look at OpenSuse, it has rollback as well and feels like traditional Linux.

by throw4738 5y ago

nix23 5y ago
Haha no not really, i have tumbleweed installed on my laptop and love it BUT it's NOT traditional.
- yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
  Other than btrfs, what's nontraditional? It's GNU/Linux with glibc and a RPM-based package manager.
  - petre 5y ago
    We use openSuSE Leap in production. It's not traditional in the sense of Ubuntu/Debian but somehow the configuration structure is more sane actually. No more /etc/nginx/modules|sites-available and a plethora of symlinks and conf.d directories spread around all over the place for instace.
  - nix23 5y ago
    Yast. Please don't get me wrong i LOVE OpenSuse, but traditional is Slackware/Arch/Gentoo/Debian but NOT Suse.
    - pnutjam 5y ago
      You know, you don't have to use yast. It's an option. You can ignore it.
      - nix23 5y ago
        Yes thanks i know that.
chungy 5y ago
Last I knew, this requires OpenSUSE on btrfs. It's a pale shadow in functionality compared to ZFS... not to mention stability, too.
- nix23 5y ago
  True btrfs is BS, i have XFS with tumbleweed and pretty happy (on the laptop), everything else freebsd all the way..if i can.
- catblast01 5y ago
  It has some features that zfs lacks such as a dedup story that is actually usable, plus more flexibility in reshaping. Other than its native raid 5/6 story what major features is it lacking in comparison to zfs? I agree the tooling is trash compared to zfs (zfs command line is a delight by comparison). Also stability wise i haven’t noted problems in years. Not to take anything away from zfs which has proven itself in its particular use cases, but btrfs is alright.
  - ac29 5y ago
    Agreed, btrfs has been stable for a long time, aside from RAID5/6, which are going to be uncommon on a laptop or desktop computer. Unfortunately, 10 years ago this was definitely not the case, and btrfs hasnt been able to shake off that reputation among some people since then.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
    > Also stability wise i haven’t noted problems in years. Counter anecdote: I have a laptop (single disk) running opensuse tumbleweed with root on btrfs, and it's managed to completely break its root filesystem twice. One of those times I tried to recover it, but in the end I just reinstalled.
    - jhoechtl 5y ago
      I had such issues like 5 years ago. Since then no issue with a btrfs root fs.

Maybe have a look at OpenSuse, it has rollback as well and feels like traditional Linux.

nix23 5y ago

Haha no not really, i have tumbleweed installed on my laptop and love it BUT it's NOT traditional.

yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
Other than btrfs, what's nontraditional? It's GNU/Linux with glibc and a RPM-based package manager.
- petre 5y ago
  We use openSuSE Leap in production. It's not traditional in the sense of Ubuntu/Debian but somehow the configuration structure is more sane actually. No more /etc/nginx/modules|sites-available and a plethora of symlinks and conf.d directories spread around all over the place for instace.
- nix23 5y ago
  Yast. Please don't get me wrong i LOVE OpenSuse, but traditional is Slackware/Arch/Gentoo/Debian but NOT Suse.
  - pnutjam 5y ago
    You know, you don't have to use yast. It's an option. You can ignore it.
    - nix23 5y ago
      Yes thanks i know that.

chungy 5y ago

Last I knew, this requires OpenSUSE on btrfs. It's a pale shadow in functionality compared to ZFS... not to mention stability, too.

nix23 5y ago
True btrfs is BS, i have XFS with tumbleweed and pretty happy (on the laptop), everything else freebsd all the way..if i can.
catblast01 5y ago
It has some features that zfs lacks such as a dedup story that is actually usable, plus more flexibility in reshaping. Other than its native raid 5/6 story what major features is it lacking in comparison to zfs? I agree the tooling is trash compared to zfs (zfs command line is a delight by comparison). Also stability wise i haven’t noted problems in years. Not to take anything away from zfs which has proven itself in its particular use cases, but btrfs is alright.
- ac29 5y ago
  Agreed, btrfs has been stable for a long time, aside from RAID5/6, which are going to be uncommon on a laptop or desktop computer. Unfortunately, 10 years ago this was definitely not the case, and btrfs hasnt been able to shake off that reputation among some people since then.
- yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
  > Also stability wise i haven’t noted problems in years. Counter anecdote: I have a laptop (single disk) running opensuse tumbleweed with root on btrfs, and it's managed to completely break its root filesystem twice. One of those times I tried to recover it, but in the end I just reinstalled.
  - jhoechtl 5y ago
    I had such issues like 5 years ago. Since then no issue with a btrfs root fs.