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Africa was never a major theater. Landing in the Normandy was in 44 (?). The war was lost in 42. For starters: http://www.fallen.io/ww2/ http://www.fallen.io/w
by newdude116 6y ago
Africa was never a major theater. Landing in the Normandy was in 44 (?). The war was lost in 42.
For starters: http://www.fallen.io/ww2/ http://www.fallen.io/ww2/
Start at 4:45
- shatnersbassoon 6y agoLike I said, the number of deaths is not a good measure of contribution towards actual defeat. Sending punishment battalions to die in their hundreds of thousands was a Soviet choice, and not a good one. Allowing millions of men to be encircled in 1941 was Soviet incompetence. Likewise, sending men into battle unarmed was Soviet callousness. Africa absolutely was a major theatre. The defeat of the Axis in Libya and Tunisia removed their dominance over the mediterranean, and allowed the Suez canal trade routes a level of safety and ultimately ensured allied economic dominance. Russia would not have received the same level of economic support if it was not clear. The Germans had not lost the war in 1942. A less despotic leader could have strategically retreated 500 miles and stabilised after Stalingrad. Also, if you're uncertain about the year when the landings in Normandy took place, perhaps your overall grasp on events is less than perfect?
- newdude116 6y ago9 out of 10 German soldiers died in the East...
- bumby 6y agoAnd the US leaders used the metric of more dead Vietnamese than Americans as proof they were winning the war. They literally created the term “The McNamara Fallacy” because it’s a poor metric of success.
- newdude116 6y agoThen you seem to know more than most military historians about WW2. Impressive!
- bumby 6y agoI made no claims about WW2. My claim is that you can’t distill a complex system like war into an overly simplistic formula like “more dead = win”. There are system effects that distort this, particularly with asymmetric warfare. As an aside, snark is discouraged on HN. Your account is new, son of encourage you to take a look at the guidelines for posting if you haven’t already.
- SergeAx 6y agoWhat was Suez canal role in economic support of Russia? Most of Lend-lease convoys were routed via Pacific and Arctic.