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Their parents should pull them out.

busterarm 5y ago
Full scholarship, competitive program, and only a year left. Not a chance. It's time to knuckle down, shut the fuck up and get through with it. The best part is one is mixed-race but presents white so she has to go to the whites-only zoom. Students and faculty collectively decided that she's not mixed-race enough (50/50) to self-identify.
- whatshisface 5y ago
  Maybe there will be some practical benefits in showing kids how to satisfy contradictory ideological requirements while still meeting their own needs (i.e., lying like rugs and doing what they want), if this is like the upper middle class world they'll have to be navigating in ten years.
- moyasari 5y ago
  She should play their game and identify as her non-white heritage. Let the school dare speak up so she calls their hypocrisy.
  - busterarm 5y ago
    No, she gets no breaks. She's an LGBT, mixed-race conservative. The only thing they see is that she looks white and is conservative. It's been a multi-year struggle against a coordinated administrative effort to kick her off her scholarships and out of school. She mostly keeps her opinions to herself, but teachers and peers stalk her social media (including to the point of creating a fake profile of a family member and trying to add her to see her private posts) and pick ideological battles she wants no part of. It's absolutely abuse and harassment.
    - rbvquant 5y ago
      We're not quite there yet, but it is interesting that the Wikipedia article about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zersetzung https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zersetzung has "Cancel culture" in its "See also" section. I hope her life will improve in a reasonable college (if there still are any left).
      - busterarm 5y ago
        This is college ;) They're trying extra hard to make her life hell this year. As much as I hate the way she's being treated, she's lucky to get her backbone early in life. She's already a very strong and capable adult.
- MikeUt 5y ago
  > shut the fuck up and get through with it. Silence is suspicious: Teachers praise insights when they articulate the existing framework or expand it to apply to novel domains. Meantime, it is common for teachers to exhort students who remain silent that “we really need to hear from you.” [..] A recent faculty email chain received enthusiastic support for recommending that we “‘officially’ flag students” who appear “resistant” to the “culture we are trying to establish.” When I questioned what form this resistance takes, examples presented by a colleague included [..] “just silence.”
- AnimalMuppet 5y ago
  Let me make sure I've got this right. I can be 100% genetically male, and present as male, but I can self-identify as female. But I can be 50/50 racially, and I can't choose to self-identify as one of those races, because I don't present as that? But we're not following the one-drop rule, so I guess that's some kind of progress...

Full scholarship, competitive program, and only a year left. Not a chance. It's time to knuckle down, shut the fuck up and get through with it. The best part is one is mixed-race but presents white so she has to go to the whites-only zoom. Students and faculty collectively decided that she's not mixed-race enough (50/50) to self-identify.

whatshisface 5y ago
Maybe there will be some practical benefits in showing kids how to satisfy contradictory ideological requirements while still meeting their own needs (i.e., lying like rugs and doing what they want), if this is like the upper middle class world they'll have to be navigating in ten years.
moyasari 5y ago
She should play their game and identify as her non-white heritage. Let the school dare speak up so she calls their hypocrisy.
- busterarm 5y ago
  No, she gets no breaks. She's an LGBT, mixed-race conservative. The only thing they see is that she looks white and is conservative. It's been a multi-year struggle against a coordinated administrative effort to kick her off her scholarships and out of school. She mostly keeps her opinions to herself, but teachers and peers stalk her social media (including to the point of creating a fake profile of a family member and trying to add her to see her private posts) and pick ideological battles she wants no part of. It's absolutely abuse and harassment.
  - rbvquant 5y ago
    We're not quite there yet, but it is interesting that the Wikipedia article about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zersetzung https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zersetzung has "Cancel culture" in its "See also" section. I hope her life will improve in a reasonable college (if there still are any left).
    - busterarm 5y ago
      This is college ;) They're trying extra hard to make her life hell this year. As much as I hate the way she's being treated, she's lucky to get her backbone early in life. She's already a very strong and capable adult.
MikeUt 5y ago
> shut the fuck up and get through with it. Silence is suspicious: Teachers praise insights when they articulate the existing framework or expand it to apply to novel domains. Meantime, it is common for teachers to exhort students who remain silent that “we really need to hear from you.” [..] A recent faculty email chain received enthusiastic support for recommending that we “‘officially’ flag students” who appear “resistant” to the “culture we are trying to establish.” When I questioned what form this resistance takes, examples presented by a colleague included [..] “just silence.”
AnimalMuppet 5y ago
Let me make sure I've got this right. I can be 100% genetically male, and present as male, but I can self-identify as female. But I can be 50/50 racially, and I can't choose to self-identify as one of those races, because I don't present as that? But we're not following the one-drop rule, so I guess that's some kind of progress...