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I'm just going to say one simple thing: very few people are qualified to assess what Apple actually "seems to care" about. And this poster definitely isn't one

by Bud 6y ago

I'm just going to say one simple thing: very few people are qualified to assess what Apple actually "seems to care" about. And this poster definitely isn't one of those people. As for the invented-from-whole-cloth link title: please don't do that.

Calvin02 6y ago
Yeah, but if it came to Google, Facebook, or Amazon, you'd be all over them with a pitchfork. Users of HN really have some rose coloured blinders on when it comes to Apple.
- Bud 6y ago
  Please don't pretend to know what other users would do in a given situation when in fact, you have no idea whatsoever.
- xondono 6y ago
  If people judged Googles playstore with this criteria pitchforks wouldn’t cut it. This post to me sounds like someone claiming spam filters are worthless because an email got across. The relevant metric is how many scams aren’t there, not how many have managed to stay for some indeterminate amount of time.
  - Apocryphon 6y ago
    It's perfectly possible to criticize both Apple and Google at the same time. If anything, these examples just illustrate why centralized app stores are inherently flawed, even if Apple's store is of much greater quality than Google's. Corporate cheerleading is boring and elides that the greater issue at hand is about openness and choice vs. closeness and security. Examples such as TFA illustrate that despite corporate promises, their security is incomplete.
  - WesolyKubeczek 6y ago
    > This post to me sounds like someone claiming spam filters are worthless because an email got across. If I'm literally prevented from using any other kind of spam filter, you bet I'd be complaining. > The relevant metric is how many scams aren’t there Would you please also prove there is definitely no teapot orbiting Mars, while we're at it?
    - Tinyyy 6y ago
      > If I'm literally prevented from using any other kind of spam filter, you bet I'd be complaining. Actually, you can use another kind of spam filter - your brain.
      - Daho0n 6y ago
        <the above comment wouldn't exist if it followed its own advice>
saagarjha 6y ago
He's a developer that's been dealing with Apple for quite a while, I see no issue with him having a position on what he believes Apple cares about.

by Bud 6y ago

Calvin02 6y ago

Yeah, but if it came to Google, Facebook, or Amazon, you'd be all over them with a pitchfork. Users of HN really have some rose coloured blinders on when it comes to Apple.

Bud 6y ago
Please don't pretend to know what other users would do in a given situation when in fact, you have no idea whatsoever.
xondono 6y ago
If people judged Googles playstore with this criteria pitchforks wouldn’t cut it. This post to me sounds like someone claiming spam filters are worthless because an email got across. The relevant metric is how many scams aren’t there, not how many have managed to stay for some indeterminate amount of time.
- Apocryphon 6y ago
  It's perfectly possible to criticize both Apple and Google at the same time. If anything, these examples just illustrate why centralized app stores are inherently flawed, even if Apple's store is of much greater quality than Google's. Corporate cheerleading is boring and elides that the greater issue at hand is about openness and choice vs. closeness and security. Examples such as TFA illustrate that despite corporate promises, their security is incomplete.
- WesolyKubeczek 6y ago
  > This post to me sounds like someone claiming spam filters are worthless because an email got across. If I'm literally prevented from using any other kind of spam filter, you bet I'd be complaining. > The relevant metric is how many scams aren’t there Would you please also prove there is definitely no teapot orbiting Mars, while we're at it?
  - Tinyyy 6y ago
    > If I'm literally prevented from using any other kind of spam filter, you bet I'd be complaining. Actually, you can use another kind of spam filter - your brain.
    - Daho0n 6y ago
      <the above comment wouldn't exist if it followed its own advice>

saagarjha 6y ago

He's a developer that's been dealing with Apple for quite a while, I see no issue with him having a position on what he believes Apple cares about.