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Easy: give the individual states more responsibility. This has already begun. There is really no reason why California and Alabama need to have 100% of the same

Easy: give the individual states more responsibility. This has already begun. There is really no reason why California and Alabama need to have 100% of the same laws on highly contentious issues. It's not called the United States for nothing.

TheAdamAndChe 5y ago
I'm sorry, I don't understand. How would increased state rights reverse gerrymandering within those states?
- ceilingcorner 5y ago
  I think polarization across the country is mostly a consequence of too much centralization. The federal government has too much power, so the political parties organize themselves in that way. Everything becomes zero sum. If states had more variation, I think you'd see less polarization, because the threat of a federal decision applying to everyone is far less of a worry.
stjohnswarts 5y ago
Actually there is because southern states are well on their way to removing women's rights to do what they want with their body, installing theocratic governments, and resurrecting Jim Crow laws. If that's not a reason for more federal involvement I don't know what is.
- ceilingcorner 5y ago
  This comment is exaggerated hyperbole and oversimplification.
  - pope_meat 5y ago
    No, not really, it's getting pretty bad in the southern states lately, or perhaps it's just the propaganda I prefer...but it does appear like a bunch of red states have passed abortion restrictions, some states worse than others, and these laws will be challenged in court, and with the supreme court being the way it is, it's really iffy.
    - ceilingcorner 5y ago
      Abortion is a complex moral issue and if you think it isn’t, you haven’t researched the topic well enough. Ditto for the other issues mentioned in your comment. The lines you’ve used (“control of their bodies, Jim Crow”) are indications that you get your information from propagandistic sources.
      - pope_meat 5y ago
        All sources are propaganda in the United States.

TheAdamAndChe 5y ago

I'm sorry, I don't understand. How would increased state rights reverse gerrymandering within those states?

ceilingcorner 5y ago
I think polarization across the country is mostly a consequence of too much centralization. The federal government has too much power, so the political parties organize themselves in that way. Everything becomes zero sum. If states had more variation, I think you'd see less polarization, because the threat of a federal decision applying to everyone is far less of a worry.

stjohnswarts 5y ago

Actually there is because southern states are well on their way to removing women's rights to do what they want with their body, installing theocratic governments, and resurrecting Jim Crow laws. If that's not a reason for more federal involvement I don't know what is.

ceilingcorner 5y ago
This comment is exaggerated hyperbole and oversimplification.
- pope_meat 5y ago
  No, not really, it's getting pretty bad in the southern states lately, or perhaps it's just the propaganda I prefer...but it does appear like a bunch of red states have passed abortion restrictions, some states worse than others, and these laws will be challenged in court, and with the supreme court being the way it is, it's really iffy.
  - ceilingcorner 5y ago
    Abortion is a complex moral issue and if you think it isn’t, you haven’t researched the topic well enough. Ditto for the other issues mentioned in your comment. The lines you’ve used (“control of their bodies, Jim Crow”) are indications that you get your information from propagandistic sources.
    - pope_meat 5y ago
      All sources are propaganda in the United States.