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Or they could have some check if things are cleaned. We accept so much detailed tracking when in reality it is unnecessary and open to abuse.

by ipaddr 6y ago

lotsofpulp 6y ago
I imagine more detailed tracking will result in lower insurance premiums as culpability can be more easily established. This will give a competitive advantage to those that implement detailed tracking.
- smolder 6y ago
  It might not be a competitive advantage to disrespect your employees.
  - lotsofpulp 6y ago
    Unfortunately, there are large swaths of jobs where the employees don't have much choice, so there is no competitive disadvantage either.
- rland 6y ago
  You can either pay someone $20 an hour and give them a sense of responsibility, autonomy, & pride, or you can pay them $10 an hour and just coerce them to do the job. Which do we reward?
  - lotsofpulp 6y ago
    Based on the proportion of businesses that exist utilizing the latter, it indicates we are rewarding the latter. Most people are very price sensitive.
- ipaddr 6y ago
  The cost of the tracking plus the cost of employee moral disappearing won't give you that competitive advantage plus the other extras youhave to do to maintain that rate (do you have a logbook of the times you had the unit serviced, semi-yearly maintance is required at your cost)
  - lotsofpulp 6y ago
    It could (and does in my experience) as the cost of tracking goes down to practically nothing. If the employee has options to work elsewhere, then the employee morale might enter into the equation. But as far as I can see, even doctors and pharmacists are tracked nowadays. Drivers are tracked more than ever, dash cams are becoming regular. Call center employees have been tracked for a long time now. Hotel employees have iPads where they go through their checklist. And if you're indoors in a public business setting, there's a near certainty you're on camera for any big business. Of course, there's a difference in tracking minute by minute movement, but my point is that we went from no tracking to quite a bit of tracking already, and I don't see any reason why this won't become widespread either (absent laws preventing it).

Or they could have some check if things are cleaned. We accept so much detailed tracking when in reality it is unnecessary and open to abuse.

by ipaddr 6y ago

Or they could have some check if things are cleaned. We accept so much detailed tracking when in reality it is unnecessary and open to abuse.

lotsofpulp 6y ago

I imagine more detailed tracking will result in lower insurance premiums as culpability can be more easily established. This will give a competitive advantage to those that implement detailed tracking.

smolder 6y ago
It might not be a competitive advantage to disrespect your employees.
- lotsofpulp 6y ago
  Unfortunately, there are large swaths of jobs where the employees don't have much choice, so there is no competitive disadvantage either.
rland 6y ago
You can either pay someone $20 an hour and give them a sense of responsibility, autonomy, & pride, or you can pay them $10 an hour and just coerce them to do the job. Which do we reward?
- lotsofpulp 6y ago
  Based on the proportion of businesses that exist utilizing the latter, it indicates we are rewarding the latter. Most people are very price sensitive.
ipaddr 6y ago
The cost of the tracking plus the cost of employee moral disappearing won't give you that competitive advantage plus the other extras youhave to do to maintain that rate (do you have a logbook of the times you had the unit serviced, semi-yearly maintance is required at your cost)
- lotsofpulp 6y ago
  It could (and does in my experience) as the cost of tracking goes down to practically nothing. If the employee has options to work elsewhere, then the employee morale might enter into the equation. But as far as I can see, even doctors and pharmacists are tracked nowadays. Drivers are tracked more than ever, dash cams are becoming regular. Call center employees have been tracked for a long time now. Hotel employees have iPads where they go through their checklist. And if you're indoors in a public business setting, there's a near certainty you're on camera for any big business. Of course, there's a difference in tracking minute by minute movement, but my point is that we went from no tracking to quite a bit of tracking already, and I don't see any reason why this won't become widespread either (absent laws preventing it).