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recidivism rates are applicable to rehab centers which offer multi-week in-patient programs. they're all legally required to provide them, and most are pretty s

recidivism rates are applicable to rehab centers which offer multi-week in-patient programs. they're all legally required to provide them, and most are pretty sad (50%+ is typical). no one claims attending a meeting with a few random people and talking is a "recovery program" by any stretch of imagination. they're completely different things.

sneak 5y ago
> no one claims attending a meeting with a few random people and talking is a "recovery program" by any stretch of imagination. they're completely different things. In my experience that is a false claim: AA/NA proponents frequently assert that they can help you recover from addiction. Their religion-based system has about the same probability of helping you recover from addiction as not going to AA/NA.
- placer 5y ago
  >Their religion-based system has about the same probability of helping you recover from addiction as not going to AA/NA. Not this again. We know for a fact that treatments which encourage people to be a part of AA fellowships result in a significantly higher rate of abstinence from alcohol. [1] See Ycombinator discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22545557 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22545557 This doesn’t mean AA is for everyone, but it does show that Alcoholics Anonymous is quite helpful for a significant subset of alcoholics. [1] John Kelly, et. al. “Alcoholics Anonymous and other 12‐step programs for alcohol use disorder” Cochrane 2020 PMC7065341 (open access, no paywall: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7065341/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7065341/ )