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This is misleading. If you’re young and healthy, the chances of dying from COVID are basically zero. The chances of dying from a blood clot from a rushed vaccin

This is misleading. If you’re young and healthy, the chances of dying from COVID are basically zero. The chances of dying from a blood clot from a rushed vaccine are not. The people who died from blood clots probably would still be alive had they not taken the vaccine.

curryst 5y ago
The risk is low, but I think the last I saw was a 0.01% IFR in the young, which comes out to 1 in 10,000. Still a higher risk than COVID at this point, although it's possible that they'll discover a higher incidence like with AZ.
javagram 5y ago
> If you’re young and healthy, the chances of dying from COVID are basically zero. Hundreds of young and healthy people have died from Covid-19. The risk is “basically zero” but so is the current known 1 in 7 million risk of dying from this blood clotting.
- ceilingcorner 5y ago
  Most of those cases haven't quite been "healthy." Even then, let's assume they were. COVID is largely avoidable, if you don't mind being avoiding others. Directly getting a vaccine is not. It's like saying X% of people riding in cars will be in accidents and die. Yeah, maybe, but that doesn't apply to you if you don't ride in a car in the first place.
  - javagram 5y ago
    > Most of those cases haven't quite been "healthy." 25% of those who died under age 21 had no pre-existing condition, according to the CDC analysis. https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/09/15/75-of-youths-who-died-from-COVID-19-had-underlying-health-conditions/1781600190309/ https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/09/15/75-of-youths-who-... I believe the data does support my statement that hundreds of young and healthy people have died from covid. The risk is close to zero, yes, but still greater than the reported risk from this vaccine. Close to 3000 people ages 25 to 34 have officially died in the USA from covid-19. If the same 75%/25% division the cdc found for under 21 applies to this group, that’s 750 young and healthy people who died so far just in the age 25-34 age group. > COVID is largely avoidable, if you don't mind being avoiding others Huge assumption. Many workers need to work in person and are going to be exposed. Many others live in a home with someone who is an essential worker, or doesn’t believe in covid being dangerous or taking precautions. It really isn’t fair to blame everyone catching covid today and say they could have simply avoided it. Also, getting a vaccine is absolutely avoidable. No one is being forcibly vaccinated right now.
root_axis 5y ago
> If you’re young and healthy, the chances of dying from COVID are basically zero Death is not the only risk factor. Covid-19 carries the risk of serious complications for those who recover, even including those who are infected but asymptomatic. https://jacksonhealth.org/persistent-pulmonary-problems-in-asymptomatic-or-mildly-symptomatic-covid-19-patients/ https://jacksonhealth.org/persistent-pulmonary-problems-in-a...
- ceilingcorner 5y ago
  > While the long-term consequences are still unknown > Additional studies are required to fully understand the virus, but for now, follow-up testing is essential to understand the long-term effects of the virus.
cma 5y ago
> The people who died from blood clots probably would still be alive had they not taken the vaccine. Isn't it just person (1 person), not people, at this point?
- ceilingcorner 5y ago
  No, there are many.
  - cma 5y ago
    Only one blood clot death suspected to be from the J&J vaccine, and another in critical condition.
    - ceilingcorner 5y ago
      I meant from all vaccines.

curryst 5y ago

The risk is low, but I think the last I saw was a 0.01% IFR in the young, which comes out to 1 in 10,000. Still a higher risk than COVID at this point, although it's possible that they'll discover a higher incidence like with AZ.

javagram 5y ago

> If you’re young and healthy, the chances of dying from COVID are basically zero. Hundreds of young and healthy people have died from Covid-19. The risk is “basically zero” but so is the current known 1 in 7 million risk of dying from this blood clotting.

ceilingcorner 5y ago
Most of those cases haven't quite been "healthy." Even then, let's assume they were. COVID is largely avoidable, if you don't mind being avoiding others. Directly getting a vaccine is not. It's like saying X% of people riding in cars will be in accidents and die. Yeah, maybe, but that doesn't apply to you if you don't ride in a car in the first place.
- javagram 5y ago
  > Most of those cases haven't quite been "healthy." 25% of those who died under age 21 had no pre-existing condition, according to the CDC analysis. https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/09/15/75-of-youths-who-died-from-COVID-19-had-underlying-health-conditions/1781600190309/ https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/09/15/75-of-youths-who-... I believe the data does support my statement that hundreds of young and healthy people have died from covid. The risk is close to zero, yes, but still greater than the reported risk from this vaccine. Close to 3000 people ages 25 to 34 have officially died in the USA from covid-19. If the same 75%/25% division the cdc found for under 21 applies to this group, that’s 750 young and healthy people who died so far just in the age 25-34 age group. > COVID is largely avoidable, if you don't mind being avoiding others Huge assumption. Many workers need to work in person and are going to be exposed. Many others live in a home with someone who is an essential worker, or doesn’t believe in covid being dangerous or taking precautions. It really isn’t fair to blame everyone catching covid today and say they could have simply avoided it. Also, getting a vaccine is absolutely avoidable. No one is being forcibly vaccinated right now.

root_axis 5y ago

> If you’re young and healthy, the chances of dying from COVID are basically zero Death is not the only risk factor. Covid-19 carries the risk of serious complications for those who recover, even including those who are infected but asymptomatic. https://jacksonhealth.org/persistent-pulmonary-problems-in-asymptomatic-or-mildly-symptomatic-covid-19-patients/ https://jacksonhealth.org/persistent-pulmonary-problems-in-a...

ceilingcorner 5y ago
> While the long-term consequences are still unknown > Additional studies are required to fully understand the virus, but for now, follow-up testing is essential to understand the long-term effects of the virus.

cma 5y ago

> The people who died from blood clots probably would still be alive had they not taken the vaccine. Isn't it just person (1 person), not people, at this point?

ceilingcorner 5y ago
No, there are many.
- cma 5y ago
  Only one blood clot death suspected to be from the J&J vaccine, and another in critical condition.
  - ceilingcorner 5y ago
    I meant from all vaccines.