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I never thought about it like this. This makes a lot of sense and is blowing my mind. I've worked at the same company for the last 16 years partly because of

I never thought about it like this. This makes a lot of sense and is blowing my mind. I've worked at the same company for the last 16 years partly because of fear of losing healthcare.

makotech222 5y ago
If you're receptive to that way of thinking, try taking a look into Marxist theories, which incorporate that way of thinking into a political philosophy.
cosmodisk 5y ago
Have a look at my 2nd earliest submission about full employment and the consequences it would bring, it's pretty refreshing reading.
grecy 5y ago
Come and live in a country where healthcare is not tied to your job in any remote way, and see how differently people behave. It really is night and day. When my brother came back to Australia after 5 years away he said the biggest thing he noticed was not driving on the wrong side of the road, not the weather, not the food, not the accents - it was how people are treated at their jobs.
- brailsafe 5y ago
  Even in Canada though, Dental is pretty much tied to your job. It's not as significant, but I've only ever had legitimate dental coverage during school and for 3 months over the course of a decade.
  - grecy 5y ago
    So move to a country where even Dental isn't tied to your job!
    - brailsafe 5y ago
      I'm working on it alright! Although technically it's not tied to your job, just not very affordable unless it's on a company plan. I figure this is the common definition of "tied to job", because I can't imagine a system that provides exclusive access to dental insurance to employers only.
brailsafe 5y ago
I haven't had dental insurance for longer than 3 months in my 11 years as an adult because I haven't managed to stay employed longer at a company that would put me on the plan. Actually typing that out evokes a unique sense of sadness that I haven't had in a while.
skylanh 5y ago
I read a horrifying description by a American of their employment and health insurance situation. Some details I don't understand, and I may be misremembering, but the gist was: - they were (under?)-employed within their field, at an okay job - they had health benefits - they had had a major health condition which caused them to now have a pre-existing condition (cancer? I don't recall.) - they were now in a situation where-in if they lost their job, or COBRA coverage for 2+ months, they lapsed out of their existing policy - they would then have to apply for health insurance coverage with a "pre-existing condition" which would not be covered (by the normal policies?) So now they were very clearly and palpably tied to their health insurance and by extension to the company that employed them, and felt very uneasy about going through the hiring / probation period somewhere else. I may have the major details wrong there, feel free to correct me if I do.

I never thought about it like this. This makes a lot of sense and is blowing my mind. I've worked at the same company for the last 16 years partly because of fear of losing healthcare.

makotech222 5y ago

If you're receptive to that way of thinking, try taking a look into Marxist theories, which incorporate that way of thinking into a political philosophy.

cosmodisk 5y ago

Have a look at my 2nd earliest submission about full employment and the consequences it would bring, it's pretty refreshing reading.

grecy 5y ago

Come and live in a country where healthcare is not tied to your job in any remote way, and see how differently people behave. It really is night and day. When my brother came back to Australia after 5 years away he said the biggest thing he noticed was not driving on the wrong side of the road, not the weather, not the food, not the accents - it was how people are treated at their jobs.

brailsafe 5y ago
Even in Canada though, Dental is pretty much tied to your job. It's not as significant, but I've only ever had legitimate dental coverage during school and for 3 months over the course of a decade.
- grecy 5y ago
  So move to a country where even Dental isn't tied to your job!
  - brailsafe 5y ago
    I'm working on it alright! Although technically it's not tied to your job, just not very affordable unless it's on a company plan. I figure this is the common definition of "tied to job", because I can't imagine a system that provides exclusive access to dental insurance to employers only.

brailsafe 5y ago

I haven't had dental insurance for longer than 3 months in my 11 years as an adult because I haven't managed to stay employed longer at a company that would put me on the plan. Actually typing that out evokes a unique sense of sadness that I haven't had in a while.

skylanh 5y ago

I read a horrifying description by a American of their employment and health insurance situation. Some details I don't understand, and I may be misremembering, but the gist was: - they were (under?)-employed within their field, at an okay job - they had health benefits - they had had a major health condition which caused them to now have a pre-existing condition (cancer? I don't recall.) - they were now in a situation where-in if they lost their job, or COBRA coverage for 2+ months, they lapsed out of their existing policy - they would then have to apply for health insurance coverage with a "pre-existing condition" which would not be covered (by the normal policies?) So now they were very clearly and palpably tied to their health insurance and by extension to the company that employed them, and felt very uneasy about going through the hiring / probation period somewhere else. I may have the major details wrong there, feel free to correct me if I do.