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Now you have the logistical challenges of shipping 2 vaccines to some small town. One for the men, another for the women. Additionally, that town needs the not

Now you have the logistical challenges of shipping 2 vaccines to some small town. One for the men, another for the women. Additionally, that town needs the not insubstantial refrigeration capabilities anyway. So what’s the point if you’re a public health admin? Just get the moderna or Pfizer and save yourself and your staff a lot of headache. The logistical benefits of J&J mean that it’s only logistically beneficial if it can be used for everyone.

hedora 6y ago
Better to write the town off to the pandemic. I mean, we’re in the middle of a fourth surge, so realistically, double digit percentages of the town are likely to get covid if we delay even a few weeks, but 10% of 0.5% the population dying from covid and increased spreading of the new variants are reasonable prices to pay to avoid 1 in a million side effects. We can make a statue for the people that die in the following weeks protecting the rest of us from the J&J vaccine. They’ll be heroes. Sorry. Really pissed off about this.
- robrenaud 6y ago
  The informed old people are vaccinated already. The IFR is way down from around .5 percent. Still agree that covid is a way bigger threat than the J&J vaccine though.
- t_sawyer 6y ago
  You think 10% of a towns population will die from COVID in a couple weeks? Has that percentage of people in any county in the USA actually died from COVID in over a year? Florida who has been pretty laissez-faire about COVID has 5,980 deaths in Miami-Dade County (their highest amount of deaths in a county). 2.717M population in 2019. 0.22% of their population.
  - robrenaud 6y ago
    He estimates an additional 10% (increased spread of covid infection due to change in vaccine policy) of .5% (death rate given covid infection) of a towns population will die from covid due to vaccine hesistancy.
    - bilbo0s 6y ago
      Only there is no vaccine hesitancy. Only public health admins saving themselves headaches by just using moderna or Pfizer in the first place. Since using J&J would require them to use moderna or Pfizer anyway.
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bluGill 6y ago
The towns small enough to only need one shipment are easy, just thaw some mRNA in the nearest big city and someone drives it out the morning of the vaccine clinic. The big enough cities to need many shipments can handle these logistic.

hedora 6y ago

Better to write the town off to the pandemic. I mean, we’re in the middle of a fourth surge, so realistically, double digit percentages of the town are likely to get covid if we delay even a few weeks, but 10% of 0.5% the population dying from covid and increased spreading of the new variants are reasonable prices to pay to avoid 1 in a million side effects. We can make a statue for the people that die in the following weeks protecting the rest of us from the J&J vaccine. They’ll be heroes. Sorry. Really pissed off about this.

robrenaud 6y ago
The informed old people are vaccinated already. The IFR is way down from around .5 percent. Still agree that covid is a way bigger threat than the J&J vaccine though.
t_sawyer 6y ago
You think 10% of a towns population will die from COVID in a couple weeks? Has that percentage of people in any county in the USA actually died from COVID in over a year? Florida who has been pretty laissez-faire about COVID has 5,980 deaths in Miami-Dade County (their highest amount of deaths in a county). 2.717M population in 2019. 0.22% of their population.
- robrenaud 6y ago
  He estimates an additional 10% (increased spread of covid infection due to change in vaccine policy) of .5% (death rate given covid infection) of a towns population will die from covid due to vaccine hesistancy.
  - bilbo0s 6y ago
    Only there is no vaccine hesitancy. Only public health admins saving themselves headaches by just using moderna or Pfizer in the first place. Since using J&J would require them to use moderna or Pfizer anyway.

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bluGill 6y ago

The towns small enough to only need one shipment are easy, just thaw some mRNA in the nearest big city and someone drives it out the morning of the vaccine clinic. The big enough cities to need many shipments can handle these logistic.