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Without clicking, I would bet my next paycheck that the author is not a woman aged under 55.

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doggosphere 6y ago
Does the presentation of statistics make it feel as if the author is diminishing the suffering of others? Actual question.
- Arnt 6y ago
  First, which others? A friend in the US drove several hours to be vaccinated, maybe three hours each way, which adds up to the same risk as from the vaccination according to the site. Are you asking whether it diminishes his suffering due to the risk en route to/from vaccination or his suffering due to risk on the site? Or are you asking whether quantifying the two risks diminishes suffering?
  - doggosphere 6y ago
    Was referring to the OP's bet that author was not a woman, perhaps implying that author was insensitive to the suffering of the (mostly) women at risk of vaccine side effects.
    - thehappypm 6y ago
      Indeed. It's almost similar to how old married men often have harsh stances on abortion rights.
    - Arnt 6y ago
      I see. The question still stands, but lightly modified — insensitive to which suffering of women? The suffering of women in traffic accidents vs. the suffering of women with thrombosis? Or insensitive because quantifying/comparing the two?
  - TechBro8615 6y ago
    This is nuts. Like, zealotry, religious level nuts.
- jonplackett 6y ago
  That isn't my intention no. This isn't about suffering really. The chances are that no suffering will take place from having a vaccine. What I'm trying to do is remind people that their lives are not currently risk free, so comparing their perceived current zero risk of suffering to the now-real risk of suffering from getting vaccinated is an incorrect comparison. We are all, every day, at risk of something bad happening to us, and it's this amount of current risk we should be comparing any new risk to, not our perceived zero risk. The increase in risk from being vaccinated is very small compared to that, but more importantly compared to the benefits of us all getting vaccinated.
Borrible 6y ago
Oddly enough, it is not a gender phenomenon worth discussing that men over 55 have a significantly increased risk of dying from Covid-19. So, everyone has their own preferences, don't they? Is it the subtle gloating of the weak? Ageism? But don't worry, in Brazil the dead of Covid-19 are much younger, although there is still a gender gap in favour of females. Brazil is one of mankind's breeding laboratories for fantastic new variants, because of delayed vaccination and delayed or insufficient quarantine. So just lets wait and see.
jonplackett 6y ago
That is true, but I made it to reassure my mum, who got the AZ vaccine.

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Does the presentation of statistics make it feel as if the author is diminishing the suffering of others? Actual question.

Arnt 6y ago
First, which others? A friend in the US drove several hours to be vaccinated, maybe three hours each way, which adds up to the same risk as from the vaccination according to the site. Are you asking whether it diminishes his suffering due to the risk en route to/from vaccination or his suffering due to risk on the site? Or are you asking whether quantifying the two risks diminishes suffering?
- doggosphere 6y ago
  Was referring to the OP's bet that author was not a woman, perhaps implying that author was insensitive to the suffering of the (mostly) women at risk of vaccine side effects.
  - thehappypm 6y ago
    Indeed. It's almost similar to how old married men often have harsh stances on abortion rights.
  - Arnt 6y ago
    I see. The question still stands, but lightly modified — insensitive to which suffering of women? The suffering of women in traffic accidents vs. the suffering of women with thrombosis? Or insensitive because quantifying/comparing the two?
- TechBro8615 6y ago
  This is nuts. Like, zealotry, religious level nuts.
jonplackett 6y ago
That isn't my intention no. This isn't about suffering really. The chances are that no suffering will take place from having a vaccine. What I'm trying to do is remind people that their lives are not currently risk free, so comparing their perceived current zero risk of suffering to the now-real risk of suffering from getting vaccinated is an incorrect comparison. We are all, every day, at risk of something bad happening to us, and it's this amount of current risk we should be comparing any new risk to, not our perceived zero risk. The increase in risk from being vaccinated is very small compared to that, but more importantly compared to the benefits of us all getting vaccinated.

Borrible 6y ago

Oddly enough, it is not a gender phenomenon worth discussing that men over 55 have a significantly increased risk of dying from Covid-19. So, everyone has their own preferences, don't they? Is it the subtle gloating of the weak? Ageism? But don't worry, in Brazil the dead of Covid-19 are much younger, although there is still a gender gap in favour of females. Brazil is one of mankind's breeding laboratories for fantastic new variants, because of delayed vaccination and delayed or insufficient quarantine. So just lets wait and see.

jonplackett 6y ago

That is true, but I made it to reassure my mum, who got the AZ vaccine.