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Reddit recently started censoring all nsfw nudity subreddits from r/all ever since the mentions of an IPO. You would need to actively subscribe or visit that

Reddit recently started censoring all nsfw nudity subreddits from r/all ever since the mentions of an IPO. You would need to actively subscribe or visit that subreddit directly. This isn't anything new. Reddit activitly censors all kinds of subreddits from r/all. Now you only can discover the content they want you to see. The level of censorship across the internet of the smallest things is getting depressing. I do see the need to censor things that manipulate people's perspectives to harm but this is different.

throwaway3699 5y ago
"but this is different..." How? As far as I can tell, the so called slippery slope fallacy came and went. We decided in favour of censorship -- but if you can censor one type of content, expect many more to be added to the list.
- everetm 5y ago
  I agree. Also, I was intentional vague. When I wrote it I was thinking of more extremest discussions around people glorifying mass murder. Which doesn't necessarily fall under a nsfw tag. If I had the choice, I'd much rather have the completely free and open internet we used to have but that ship has sailed as you mentioned.
  - jhclouse 5y ago
    You’re actively arguing for revving up the engines and setting out while defending that decision as if it has already taken place. While plenty of people are disagreeing with the potential decision. Also, I’m not a “we” and neither are you. Stop hiding behind some imaginary hive mind.
    - everetm 5y ago
      "you're actively arguing for revving up the engines" Am I? Not sure why you're attacking every character of text. Relax kid.
jerf 5y ago
"I do see the need to censor things that manipulate people's perspectives to harm but this is different." No, it's not different at all. Plenty of people see porn as "manipulating people's persectives to harm"; in fact Apple is doing it almost precisely because that's the mainstream opinion. I think the dominant problem with the burgeoning pro-censorship crowd here on HN is that they still haven't grappled with the fact that they aren't going to be picking what gets censored. No matter how confidently you look out at the current landscape and think only they will be censored, you're never more than one power shift away from being the censored one, and more of you than you realize are zero power shifts away, as everetm has now just discovered.
- Miraste 5y ago
  Since everyone and their mother got access to it, the internet needs censorship to function. Imagine HN, the App Store, any Discord server or subreddit, or any forum ever with no moderation. They'd be dysfunctional to the point of being unusable (and often are, it's not like examples are lacking). If you agree with any of that, this is not an absolutist debate but a question of degree and picking a spot on the slope that isn't too slippery.
  - skynet-9000 5y ago
    > Imagine [a list of things that did not include the Internet itself] with no moderation. Dysfunctional to the point of being unusable indeed.
    - Miraste 5y ago
      I'm not sure what your point is here. If everything notable on the internet is moderated, it's functionally equivalent. I don't support what Apple is doing or the increased heavy-handedness of recent years, but advocating no censorship of anything is a fantasy and a cop-out.
      - skynet-9000 5y ago
        > fantasy and a cop-out And yet somehow you found this site, where you claimed the uncensored internet was a fantasy.
Qahlel 5y ago
We are urgently in need of a republican house & congress who are super against big-media censoring anything. I prefer no censor over any attempt of speech control.

throwaway3699 5y ago

"but this is different..." How? As far as I can tell, the so called slippery slope fallacy came and went. We decided in favour of censorship -- but if you can censor one type of content, expect many more to be added to the list.

everetm 5y ago
I agree. Also, I was intentional vague. When I wrote it I was thinking of more extremest discussions around people glorifying mass murder. Which doesn't necessarily fall under a nsfw tag. If I had the choice, I'd much rather have the completely free and open internet we used to have but that ship has sailed as you mentioned.
- jhclouse 5y ago
  You’re actively arguing for revving up the engines and setting out while defending that decision as if it has already taken place. While plenty of people are disagreeing with the potential decision. Also, I’m not a “we” and neither are you. Stop hiding behind some imaginary hive mind.
  - everetm 5y ago
    "you're actively arguing for revving up the engines" Am I? Not sure why you're attacking every character of text. Relax kid.

jerf 5y ago

"I do see the need to censor things that manipulate people's perspectives to harm but this is different." No, it's not different at all. Plenty of people see porn as "manipulating people's persectives to harm"; in fact Apple is doing it almost precisely because that's the mainstream opinion. I think the dominant problem with the burgeoning pro-censorship crowd here on HN is that they still haven't grappled with the fact that they aren't going to be picking what gets censored. No matter how confidently you look out at the current landscape and think only they will be censored, you're never more than one power shift away from being the censored one, and more of you than you realize are zero power shifts away, as everetm has now just discovered.

Miraste 5y ago
Since everyone and their mother got access to it, the internet needs censorship to function. Imagine HN, the App Store, any Discord server or subreddit, or any forum ever with no moderation. They'd be dysfunctional to the point of being unusable (and often are, it's not like examples are lacking). If you agree with any of that, this is not an absolutist debate but a question of degree and picking a spot on the slope that isn't too slippery.
- skynet-9000 5y ago
  > Imagine [a list of things that did not include the Internet itself] with no moderation. Dysfunctional to the point of being unusable indeed.
  - Miraste 5y ago
    I'm not sure what your point is here. If everything notable on the internet is moderated, it's functionally equivalent. I don't support what Apple is doing or the increased heavy-handedness of recent years, but advocating no censorship of anything is a fantasy and a cop-out.
    - skynet-9000 5y ago
      > fantasy and a cop-out And yet somehow you found this site, where you claimed the uncensored internet was a fantasy.

Qahlel 5y ago

We are urgently in need of a republican house & congress who are super against big-media censoring anything. I prefer no censor over any attempt of speech control.