I guess it wouldn't be good marketing to say "hey, here's my new project done in PHP!" so even if you actually enjoy working with PHP you probably end up not ta

I guess it wouldn't be good marketing to say "hey, here's my new project done in PHP!" so even if you actually enjoy working with PHP you probably end up not talking much about it. I know that's what I do. I don't see it go away anytime soon but I also don't expect it to grow since most new developers probably run away from it and to more talked about stuff like Ruby. Still, I have recently heard some stories about how Rails is losing its hype. Finally, when I had to choose a framework to work on I chose to go with CodeIgniter for its freedom (no conventions) while giving you MVC (and models being optional) and the dead simple but complete documentation. PHP is like C#, startups don't talk about it but it's what the rest of the world use.