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> Well then move to high-income country. You can't just take an Uber to a rich country. You have to do a lot of work to get there. All that work is wasted year

> Well then move to high-income country. You can't just take an Uber to a rich country. You have to do a lot of work to get there. All that work is wasted years compared to someone who was just born there in the first place and can focus 100% on their actual path of getting rich.

alexgmcm 6y ago
Exactly, I live in relatively wealthy Western Europe and emigrating to the United States would still be a hell of a lot of work. It's not 1900 where you can just jump on a boat. Comments like the one you quoted just seem completely divorced from reality.
- EvilEy3 6y ago
  I moved from one of the shittiest Eastern countries to the "relatively wealthy Western Europe". And it was 2018 where I "just jumped on airplane". How am I detached from reality when live in it?
  - alexgmcm 6y ago
    Within the EU? That's an exception due to the freedom of movement rules which don't really exist anywhere else.
    - EvilEy3 6y ago
      Outside.
- herbst 6y ago
  Maybe the US is but if you have proper education nothing stops you from migrating to switzerland. Dont like german? No worries french and italian are options too.
EvilEy3 6y ago
> You have to do a lot of work to get there. Oh no! I have to do work? Guess it is time to roll over and just die. You can't expect me to work for something! > All that work is wasted years compared to someone who was just born there in the first place and can focus 100% on their actual path of getting rich. All your work of getting rich is wasted years compared to someone who was just born rich in the first place and can focus 100% on their actual path of getting uber rich. How's that sound? Maybe instead of focusing on some abstract definition of rich you should focus on what amount makes you happy? First step to happiness is to stop having destructive mindset of "bah, he started with more money than I did". I probably won't buy Ferrari in my life, and I'm okay with that. I probably won't buy luxurious house or start unicorn startup. And I'm okay with that. But I will achieve relatively wealthy and good life and be content with that.
herbst 6y ago
Did you actually see how this really works before forming your opinion? The only thing my family needed to migrate to Switzerland was one job contract for my mum, not even a well paid job but some future potential due to relatively good education. The most complicated part was not paying way to much to get our stuff over here. Its not to different in many other countries. The thing is, if you are somewhat valueable (i.e. learned a job that has a higher need) you have a realistic chance.
- heavyset_go 6y ago
  What first world country can people emigrate to without a sponsor, a degree or specialization?
  - EvilEy3 6y ago
    Why do you think you're entitled to emigrate there?
    - heavyset_go 6y ago
      I'm not the one saying that people living in low income countries can just emigrate to high income countries to solve their problems with poverty.
  - herbst 6y ago
    Or money. Money works too. None i guess, but gladly many people have the possibility to get some kind of degree these days. Just because you come from a poor country does not mean you have no means of learning a job.
    - random314 6y ago
      I think you haven't been to a poor country. Case in point India is more than 20% illiterate.
      - herbst 6y ago
filleduchaos 6y ago
> You have to do a lot of work to get there. For some of us, no amount of work is enough. You're simply at the mercy of whoever is supposed to process your papers.

alexgmcm 6y ago

Exactly, I live in relatively wealthy Western Europe and emigrating to the United States would still be a hell of a lot of work. It's not 1900 where you can just jump on a boat. Comments like the one you quoted just seem completely divorced from reality.

EvilEy3 6y ago
I moved from one of the shittiest Eastern countries to the "relatively wealthy Western Europe". And it was 2018 where I "just jumped on airplane". How am I detached from reality when live in it?
- alexgmcm 6y ago
  Within the EU? That's an exception due to the freedom of movement rules which don't really exist anywhere else.
  - EvilEy3 6y ago
    Outside.
herbst 6y ago
Maybe the US is but if you have proper education nothing stops you from migrating to switzerland. Dont like german? No worries french and italian are options too.

EvilEy3 6y ago

> You have to do a lot of work to get there. Oh no! I have to do work? Guess it is time to roll over and just die. You can't expect me to work for something! > All that work is wasted years compared to someone who was just born there in the first place and can focus 100% on their actual path of getting rich. All your work of getting rich is wasted years compared to someone who was just born rich in the first place and can focus 100% on their actual path of getting uber rich. How's that sound? Maybe instead of focusing on some abstract definition of rich you should focus on what amount makes you happy? First step to happiness is to stop having destructive mindset of "bah, he started with more money than I did". I probably won't buy Ferrari in my life, and I'm okay with that. I probably won't buy luxurious house or start unicorn startup. And I'm okay with that. But I will achieve relatively wealthy and good life and be content with that.

herbst 6y ago

Did you actually see how this really works before forming your opinion? The only thing my family needed to migrate to Switzerland was one job contract for my mum, not even a well paid job but some future potential due to relatively good education. The most complicated part was not paying way to much to get our stuff over here. Its not to different in many other countries. The thing is, if you are somewhat valueable (i.e. learned a job that has a higher need) you have a realistic chance.

heavyset_go 6y ago
What first world country can people emigrate to without a sponsor, a degree or specialization?
- EvilEy3 6y ago
  Why do you think you're entitled to emigrate there?
  - heavyset_go 6y ago
    I'm not the one saying that people living in low income countries can just emigrate to high income countries to solve their problems with poverty.
- herbst 6y ago
  Or money. Money works too. None i guess, but gladly many people have the possibility to get some kind of degree these days. Just because you come from a poor country does not mean you have no means of learning a job.
  - random314 6y ago
    I think you haven't been to a poor country. Case in point India is more than 20% illiterate.
    - herbst 6y ago

filleduchaos 6y ago

> You have to do a lot of work to get there. For some of us, no amount of work is enough. You're simply at the mercy of whoever is supposed to process your papers.