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You're carrying on some argument from some other place on the internet and applying it here, but I'm not part of it and I'm not the person you disagree with. I

You're carrying on some argument from some other place on the internet and applying it here, but I'm not part of it and I'm not the person you disagree with. Irony isn't a bad thing, it just is or isn't, and in this case it is. I was just trying to clarify that since someone said it wasn't.

dane-pgp 6y ago
I apologise for replying to you without providing enough relevant context. It's true that you weren't the one who initially brought up the issue of "irony", but I didn't want to reply to the [flagged][dead] comment as that would provide even less context to people reading mine. You say that you're not the person I disagree with, but by saying "it's ironic" you gave the impression that we shouldn't expect leftists to make money from their work on Patreon. The point of the comic I linked was that there is nothing surprising about people earning money in the system they find themselves in while trying to change that system.
- BitwiseFool 6y ago
  I'm the OP. There's nothing wrong with these podcasters making money for their work. I mostly disagree with them but they've earned their money. What I find ironic about it is that these podcasters in particular are crass, irreverent, and hypercritical of capitalism. But, they're using the status quo to make life changing amounts of money by talking about how bad the current system is. Good for them, though.
  - runarberg 6y ago
    If you find that ironic, then surely you see the irony when rich entrepreneurs blaze capitalism and oppose wealth tax while making money out of public infrastructure and skilled workers. It is indeed too easy to see hypocrisy when strong opinions are expresses—particularly so if you don’t share the ideology. So easy in fact, and is done so often that it has become the meme that dane-pgp pointed out.
    - BitwiseFool 6y ago
      I don't find that ironic because that's exactly what I would expect those greedy people to do.
  - dane-pgp 6y ago
    Are you sure that the "life changing amounts of money" are going solely into the pockets of these podcasters and not into expenses like recording equipment, editors, researchers, and so on? I accept that people might find it ironic if someone who complains about wealth inequality is also extremely wealthy, but on the other hand, someone who has managed to become extremely wealthy is arguably the best qualified to judge the unfairness or dangers of such a system. Perhaps a better example of irony in this situation, though, is the fact that capitalism seems to be rewarding people for criticising (and potentially seeking to end) it, which is an odd property for a system to have.

dane-pgp 6y ago

I apologise for replying to you without providing enough relevant context. It's true that you weren't the one who initially brought up the issue of "irony", but I didn't want to reply to the [flagged][dead] comment as that would provide even less context to people reading mine. You say that you're not the person I disagree with, but by saying "it's ironic" you gave the impression that we shouldn't expect leftists to make money from their work on Patreon. The point of the comic I linked was that there is nothing surprising about people earning money in the system they find themselves in while trying to change that system.

BitwiseFool 6y ago
I'm the OP. There's nothing wrong with these podcasters making money for their work. I mostly disagree with them but they've earned their money. What I find ironic about it is that these podcasters in particular are crass, irreverent, and hypercritical of capitalism. But, they're using the status quo to make life changing amounts of money by talking about how bad the current system is. Good for them, though.
- runarberg 6y ago
  If you find that ironic, then surely you see the irony when rich entrepreneurs blaze capitalism and oppose wealth tax while making money out of public infrastructure and skilled workers. It is indeed too easy to see hypocrisy when strong opinions are expresses—particularly so if you don’t share the ideology. So easy in fact, and is done so often that it has become the meme that dane-pgp pointed out.
  - BitwiseFool 6y ago
    I don't find that ironic because that's exactly what I would expect those greedy people to do.
- dane-pgp 6y ago
  Are you sure that the "life changing amounts of money" are going solely into the pockets of these podcasters and not into expenses like recording equipment, editors, researchers, and so on? I accept that people might find it ironic if someone who complains about wealth inequality is also extremely wealthy, but on the other hand, someone who has managed to become extremely wealthy is arguably the best qualified to judge the unfairness or dangers of such a system. Perhaps a better example of irony in this situation, though, is the fact that capitalism seems to be rewarding people for criticising (and potentially seeking to end) it, which is an odd property for a system to have.