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So now the elected representatives cannot represent, because they are not expected to? Does this not make it very unlikely for any person to actually make an i

So now the elected representatives cannot represent, because they are not expected to? Does this not make it very unlikely for any person to actually make an informed decision? Next move is money in politics, who do the politicians actually work for and why do they work that way? You wrote it above, large sums of money. What's an ordinary person to do but conclude they are not getting good, or even reasonable representation? (And they aren't overall) What do they do to combat that? I can assure you taking some test is not the answer here. At. All.

giantg2 6y ago
"So now the elected representatives cannot represent, because they are not expected to? Does this not make it very unlikely for any person to actually make an informed decision?" You really have a habit of going off on some random tangent and misrepresentating what was said. The dynamic is different. You have a 1 to 1 vs a 1 to n (thousands to millions). This allows lawyers, the example you brought up, to interact in a meaningful and even educational way. The rules of professional conduct are also different, allowing politicians to do things lawyers cannot. If the people are educated, then they can recognize when they are being misrepresented and the steps to take to correct it. This might involve adding better candidates to the ballot or looking outside of the traditional 2 parties. It's not the test, it's the education of the people. Passing some rule, as you suggest, isn't going to fix anything. It's not likely that the representatives will legislate away that source of funding without adding loopholes that benefit the party in power. Your plan depends on the same corrupt power hungry people to somehow oversee themselves and remove a source of their own power. So how do you see that actually working? Spoiler - it doesn't.
- ddingus 6y ago
  How do you propose education happens? I do agree on that being needed. Right now most consent is manufactured, and people do not see their commonality. It will need to be the people who address this. There are no others available, or of means, willing.

giantg2 6y ago

"So now the elected representatives cannot represent, because they are not expected to? Does this not make it very unlikely for any person to actually make an informed decision?" You really have a habit of going off on some random tangent and misrepresentating what was said. The dynamic is different. You have a 1 to 1 vs a 1 to n (thousands to millions). This allows lawyers, the example you brought up, to interact in a meaningful and even educational way. The rules of professional conduct are also different, allowing politicians to do things lawyers cannot. If the people are educated, then they can recognize when they are being misrepresented and the steps to take to correct it. This might involve adding better candidates to the ballot or looking outside of the traditional 2 parties. It's not the test, it's the education of the people. Passing some rule, as you suggest, isn't going to fix anything. It's not likely that the representatives will legislate away that source of funding without adding loopholes that benefit the party in power. Your plan depends on the same corrupt power hungry people to somehow oversee themselves and remove a source of their own power. So how do you see that actually working? Spoiler - it doesn't.

ddingus 6y ago
How do you propose education happens? I do agree on that being needed. Right now most consent is manufactured, and people do not see their commonality. It will need to be the people who address this. There are no others available, or of means, willing.