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Yeah, but if feels not right , people should use the down vote button , then if the majority pressed down then up then is clearly something it should not be dis
by simion314 6y ago
Yeah, but if feels not right , people should use the down vote button , then if the majority pressed down then up then is clearly something it should not be discussed. It is not right that a small number of individuals could hide something, because there is not an equivalent mechanism for a similar number of people to un-flag it.
There were different articles about RMS, so why an article that has Red Hat in it's name should stay and other that has an author less prestigious should be hidden, I mean let the community decide, we always repeat ourselves in comments when we talk about latest Apple,Facebook or Google shit so if the users upvote and discuss something then don't fucking hide it, it means it is on topic, the nes that don't want to engage can skip the article or downvote it and upvote soem other article instead that is more interesting.
- jcranmer 6y agoYou can't downvote articles; you can only flag them [if you want to express disapproval].
- fsflover 6y agoYou can also hide them. Flagging means something serious.
- simion314 6y agoYeah, I was confused, we can't downvote. IMO flag should only be used for offtopic or content that is against side rules. I nenver flagged any submission, even if I think is offtopic or low quality, I can ignore it, maybe the people that engaged it have other opinion so why I should decide for others what should they see on the home page. My proposal might not be better , so I admit I can be wrong and I let the HN stuff to do their job how they think is best, just wanted to tell my opinion that even here stuff might be hidden for you because a small number of people decided it.
- pseudalopex 6y agoAll submissions compete for attention. Voting and commenting influence what submissions other people see too.
- simion314 6y agoI know but from my observations all the up-votes and comments can't undo a few flags. Maybe there should be a way so if same number of people contest the flags then it undoes it? At least I think is not fair to use flag on an item I think it should get less attention, then I should flag all posts about the frameworks or languages that I think are getting too much attention (I do not flag and very rare downvote )
- pseudalopex 6y agoHow did you observe the number of flags? dang seemed to endorse flagging repetition and flame war. I don't know what to tell you if you interpret that as just too much attention.
- simion314 6y agoI have no data so I might be wrong,so let me apologize if my understanding of how HN works is wrong.(I know that some people flag stuff and the Dan will say it is not me , is you guys but this time i will undo the flags and give the article a change(what I do not see is how many garbage or good stuff gets flagged so maybe the good ones that get flagged are few compared to garbage, maybe I will never know) So let me ask, in general we have a page where we are encouraged to upvote good articles and discouraged to flag things we do not agree or a mediocre how can the system prevent that the flag is not abused by the minority that flags things they just disagree. I don't want to HN employee, it is a big site and there is probably a lot of issues that need to be checked and addressed, my point initially was that HN is better then FB but there could be better system there. My favorite so far is a Star Trek related subreddit, the rules are clear and enforced. For example no meme, jokes or lazy comment or submissions are allowed, you are encouraged to either report or educate people that are not respecting the rules. It did not generated a bubble relative to the topic, and the memes,jokes and filth has it's own subbreddits and you have the big subbreddit where most everything is allowed.