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Owning a Tesla out of warranty is a pain in the ass, and expensive (my last maintenance cost 1400 euro’s, about double what I ever paid for my Audi’s, because t

Owning a Tesla out of warranty is a pain in the ass, and expensive (my last maintenance cost 1400 euro’s, about double what I ever paid for my Audi’s, because there was just so much crap they needed to fix. Most of which they did not actually fix). A lot of things go wrong on Teslas. A nice example is the yellowing screens in the S/X and how Tesla is handling that these days. People always think their cars will ‘keep getting better over time’ due to the software updates, but ask any MCU1 owner how well that’s going. Basically: once your hardware is no longer the latest generation they put in new cars, you quickly start missing out on new features. And that’s after the software has slowed down over time on your old hardware because they probably only test in the latest cars. As for the quality control: there were plenty of videos from bumpers falling off of Model 3’s after driving through puddles. Or rain leaking through the windshield of Model Y’s. Even die-hard Tesla youtubers still mention the panel gaps whenever they get a new Tesla. Btw: ever noticed that they rarely keep those Teslas for more than 2 or 3 years? S and X had a lot of build problems, but the problems you’re seeing on 3’s and Y’s are much more severe IMO. Especially from a company that once claimed they were gonna teach Toyota a thing or two about auto manufacturing.

Kirby64 6y ago
>> Owning a Tesla out of warranty is a pain in the ass, and expensive (my last maintenance cost 1400 euro’s, about double what I ever paid for my Audi’s, because there was just so much crap they needed to fix. Most of which they did not actually fix). A lot of things go wrong on Teslas. A nice example is the yellowing screens in the S/X and how Tesla is handling that these days. Won't argue that out-of-warranty work isn't pricey, but is it really any better than other luxury cars? I've had plenty of friends with BMWs or Audis that had huge repair bills on out of warranty stuff. Your example of yellowing screens is a known issue that they're finally admitting to, and rolling out a fix. Your one anecdote here regarding Audi seems contrary to much of general consensus. >> People always think their cars will ‘keep getting better over time’ due to the software updates, but ask any MCU1 owner how well that’s going. Basically: once your hardware is no longer the latest generation they put in new cars, you quickly start missing out on new features. And that’s after the software has slowed down over time on your old hardware because they probably only test in the latest cars. How is MCU1 owners not getting the latest features different from literally any other car? Every other car gets no additional features the moment you drive it off the lot. Even getting map updates is something that is iffy and costs money. >> As for the quality control: there were plenty of videos from bumpers falling off of Model 3’s after driving through puddles. Or rain leaking through the windshield of Model Y’s. Even die-hard Tesla youtubers still mention the panel gaps whenever they get a new Tesla. Btw: ever noticed that they rarely keep those Teslas for more than 2 or 3 years? Again, how much of that is quality actually getting worse, or just the fact they're making WAY more cars, so the quality % is same/better but incident amount is up due to scale? >> S and X had a lot of build problems, but the problems you’re seeing on 3’s and Y’s are much more severe IMO. Especially from a company that once claimed they were gonna teach Toyota a thing or two about auto manufacturing. I don't think anyone truly thinks Tesla is going to have better build quality than Toyota. That said, there's plenty of reports of other manufacturers with lemons. Again, the question is quantity. Tesla's failures get press.

Kirby64 6y ago

>> Owning a Tesla out of warranty is a pain in the ass, and expensive (my last maintenance cost 1400 euro’s, about double what I ever paid for my Audi’s, because there was just so much crap they needed to fix. Most of which they did not actually fix). A lot of things go wrong on Teslas. A nice example is the yellowing screens in the S/X and how Tesla is handling that these days. Won't argue that out-of-warranty work isn't pricey, but is it really any better than other luxury cars? I've had plenty of friends with BMWs or Audis that had huge repair bills on out of warranty stuff. Your example of yellowing screens is a known issue that they're finally admitting to, and rolling out a fix. Your one anecdote here regarding Audi seems contrary to much of general consensus. >> People always think their cars will ‘keep getting better over time’ due to the software updates, but ask any MCU1 owner how well that’s going. Basically: once your hardware is no longer the latest generation they put in new cars, you quickly start missing out on new features. And that’s after the software has slowed down over time on your old hardware because they probably only test in the latest cars. How is MCU1 owners not getting the latest features different from literally any other car? Every other car gets no additional features the moment you drive it off the lot. Even getting map updates is something that is iffy and costs money. >> As for the quality control: there were plenty of videos from bumpers falling off of Model 3’s after driving through puddles. Or rain leaking through the windshield of Model Y’s. Even die-hard Tesla youtubers still mention the panel gaps whenever they get a new Tesla. Btw: ever noticed that they rarely keep those Teslas for more than 2 or 3 years? Again, how much of that is quality actually getting worse, or just the fact they're making WAY more cars, so the quality % is same/better but incident amount is up due to scale? >> S and X had a lot of build problems, but the problems you’re seeing on 3’s and Y’s are much more severe IMO. Especially from a company that once claimed they were gonna teach Toyota a thing or two about auto manufacturing. I don't think anyone truly thinks Tesla is going to have better build quality than Toyota. That said, there's plenty of reports of other manufacturers with lemons. Again, the question is quantity. Tesla's failures get press.