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> before fleeing communism to move to China Is there some level of humour here that I'm missing? (and yes I know all the subtleties around the Chinese system.

> before fleeing communism to move to China Is there some level of humour here that I'm missing? (and yes I know all the subtleties around the Chinese system. But still - that's a heck of a sentence to throw out uncritically)

fakedang 6y ago
He makes a lot of valid points about the unsustainability of the European system, but yeah couldn't help a chuckle at that line.
- chipotle_coyote 6y ago
  The "valid points" about how socialism will surely drive all of Europe bankrupt within the next decade have been repeated for the last seventy years. I'm sure they're right this time, though.
  - fakedang 6y ago
    Of course, the European model is extremely sustainable if you can ignore the not insignificant amount of cost cutting and lack of coverage of certain drugs for orphan diseases. You can literally just talk to any doctor or nurse in the NHS system and ask them about how quality of care has declined over the past decade, while their professionals' workload has only increased unsustainably. And we're talking about one of the best run healthcare systems in Europe here. It's of course nothing like the American system which is a bastardization of Healthcare, but it's no utopia either. Costs of delivering healthcare have increased in Europe mostly due to wasteful spending. I don't know if you bothered to read his points after the first line, but he clearly outlined the Asian model of healthcare, and clearly criticizes the American model.
    - FireBeyond 6y ago
      > lack of coverage of certain drugs for orphan diseases This is literally the case in the US too. It's not "right" in Europe, when it happens, nor is it in the US. US pharma companies have, repeatedly, discontinued cheaper, and in some cases, the only effective, medications when they've deemed them not profitable enough.

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> before fleeing communism to move to China Is there some level of humour here that I'm missing? (and yes I know all the subtleties around the Chinese system.

by andybak 6y ago

fakedang 6y ago
He makes a lot of valid points about the unsustainability of the European system, but yeah couldn't help a chuckle at that line.
- chipotle_coyote 6y ago
  The "valid points" about how socialism will surely drive all of Europe bankrupt within the next decade have been repeated for the last seventy years. I'm sure they're right this time, though.
  - fakedang 6y ago
    Of course, the European model is extremely sustainable if you can ignore the not insignificant amount of cost cutting and lack of coverage of certain drugs for orphan diseases. You can literally just talk to any doctor or nurse in the NHS system and ask them about how quality of care has declined over the past decade, while their professionals' workload has only increased unsustainably. And we're talking about one of the best run healthcare systems in Europe here. It's of course nothing like the American system which is a bastardization of Healthcare, but it's no utopia either. Costs of delivering healthcare have increased in Europe mostly due to wasteful spending. I don't know if you bothered to read his points after the first line, but he clearly outlined the Asian model of healthcare, and clearly criticizes the American model.
    - FireBeyond 6y ago
      > lack of coverage of certain drugs for orphan diseases This is literally the case in the US too. It's not "right" in Europe, when it happens, nor is it in the US. US pharma companies have, repeatedly, discontinued cheaper, and in some cases, the only effective, medications when they've deemed them not profitable enough.