> People are able to stay fit, lean, and healthy without becoming some robotic fool who survives on water and protein powder. Yes those are often those people

> People are able to stay fit, lean, and healthy without becoming some robotic fool who survives on water and protein powder. Yes those are often those people who dont have that big of a problem to start with. You have a lot of forces working against you when you have an weight problem especially when you are obese. > Tracking your TDEE and macros is very simple, and not restrictive at all. One can drink beer, eat pizza and candy, and retain a great physique with ease. It requires only that you don't go overboard when indulging. One doesn't have to be in a caloric deficit every single day. As long as one is in cal-def a majority of the time, it's fine. As long as they don't shovel enough food into their mouth on their 'bad' days, to undo all the hard work from the 'good' days, it works out fine. You are forgetting why people get overwieght from the beginning. Weight problems are mostly an psycological problem and if it where as simple as not shoveling food in their mouth on their bad days there this would not be an issue at all. Am not trying to convince people they cannot suceed, but I think its important to tell people how hard it can be and it get harder the more weight you have to loose. Try to loose weight when you have two/three lunch bussiness meetings where the client has payed for the lunch/dinner and then have a social life with alcohool and food during the weekend when you have a weight problem. Its a hard task and requires a decent amount of dicipline. Am not saying its impossible to loose wieht and that you should not do it. But its important to know the challange ahead and what it will take.