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Siri is brain-damaged. I am constantly disappointed with how stupid she is compared to Alexa and the gap is widening. I try to keep things as simple as possib

Siri is brain-damaged. I am constantly disappointed with how stupid she is compared to Alexa and the gap is widening. I try to keep things as simple as possible with her because she always disappoints me. I wish Apple would open up a tiny bit of those 200 billion in cash reserves on improving Siri.

dominotw 6y ago
>she always disappoints me siri doesnt default to female voice anymore.
- sgerenser 6y ago
  Doesn’t default to male voice either, you will have to choose. I bet most people keep it what it always was (female in the US, some countries like UK were male voices).
- JustSomeNobody 6y ago
  Oh come on! That was announced like 2 weeks ago!
  - saagarjha 6y ago
    In a beta no less.
- eCa 6y ago
  Siri is a female name[1] so it makes sense to use ’she’ when humanizing her. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siri_(given_name) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siri_(given_name)
DrBazza 6y ago
You clearly haven't had the pleasure of trying to use voice control in a Mercedes-Benz. It makes Siri and Cortana seem telepathic by comparison.
- vanderZwan 6y ago
  Have you tried speaking to it in German? (joking aside, is that voice control developed in the US or in Germany?)
  - throwaway4good 6y ago
    German always works! (For cats at least.) Seriously - my guess is that they try to perform the speech recognition client side (on the local hardware) and are less agressive on how they collect data for model training. Unlike Google or some company in China which make thin clients that send everything to a central server where it is much easier to recognize, correct and train.
- agotterer 6y ago
  Same with the Audi. I don’t understand why all the car companies aren’t licensing the assistant technology from the big tech companies and using it as the default. I get Siri via car play, but even car play is sandboxed because it can’t control things like the radio or temperature.
  - stadium 6y ago
    The procurement decisions for the infotainment system are made around 5 years in advance of the vehicle release. The tech is obsolete before the car leaves the dealership.
  - DrBazza 6y ago
    Android Auto at least works, and that in turn has voice recognition that works. It's completely "meta" that I have to use voice recognition on my phone to call a number that triggers bluetooth that activates the hands-free and speaker in the car.
    - idiotsecant 6y ago
      I would argue that in-car infotainment systems should be nothing but a dumb terminal into your phone. We already have devices with voice recognition, navigation, multimedia, etc. Why don't we have a way to just use that?
geodel 6y ago
I mean I can understand how stupid siri is. I find it so irritating that I always keep it disabled. But the point that anything Apple doing bad is for the lack of spending is hilarious. In fact I'd say Apple is just keeping spending money instead of shutting it down. When IBM Watson AI sank like turd in market it cut funding and let most of team go. I think Apple doing same might be more sensible.
- defaultname 6y ago
  I think Siri is intended to be more goal oriented. I use it extensively, with very little complaint, daily- -set alarm -next song -set timer -set reminder (e.g. "Siri set reminder 6pm close garage door") -send message to <person> These comprise 99% of what I would want it to do, and it does it marvelously.
  - iamatworknow 6y ago
    Same here. I replaced the few Alexa devices in my house with Homepods over the last year and have notice no difference in how well they work because I don't use them for anything particularly complicated, and I don't _want_ to use them for any more than that. The only thing Siri seems to mess up for my usage is not interpreting things I put on my shopping list correctly, but usually in a way that's still recognizable (like "milk this'll").
- Lewton 6y ago
  > I find it so irritating that I always keep it disabled. Ah, if there only was a way to disable it fully. Even when I disable Siri, it still randomly decides to call people when I boil a pot of rice
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dominotw 6y ago

>she always disappoints me siri doesnt default to female voice anymore.

sgerenser 6y ago
Doesn’t default to male voice either, you will have to choose. I bet most people keep it what it always was (female in the US, some countries like UK were male voices).
JustSomeNobody 6y ago
Oh come on! That was announced like 2 weeks ago!
- saagarjha 6y ago
  In a beta no less.
eCa 6y ago
Siri is a female name[1] so it makes sense to use ’she’ when humanizing her. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siri_(given_name) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siri_(given_name)

DrBazza 6y ago

You clearly haven't had the pleasure of trying to use voice control in a Mercedes-Benz. It makes Siri and Cortana seem telepathic by comparison.

vanderZwan 6y ago
Have you tried speaking to it in German? (joking aside, is that voice control developed in the US or in Germany?)
- throwaway4good 6y ago
  German always works! (For cats at least.) Seriously - my guess is that they try to perform the speech recognition client side (on the local hardware) and are less agressive on how they collect data for model training. Unlike Google or some company in China which make thin clients that send everything to a central server where it is much easier to recognize, correct and train.
agotterer 6y ago
Same with the Audi. I don’t understand why all the car companies aren’t licensing the assistant technology from the big tech companies and using it as the default. I get Siri via car play, but even car play is sandboxed because it can’t control things like the radio or temperature.
- stadium 6y ago
  The procurement decisions for the infotainment system are made around 5 years in advance of the vehicle release. The tech is obsolete before the car leaves the dealership.
- DrBazza 6y ago
  Android Auto at least works, and that in turn has voice recognition that works. It's completely "meta" that I have to use voice recognition on my phone to call a number that triggers bluetooth that activates the hands-free and speaker in the car.
  - idiotsecant 6y ago
    I would argue that in-car infotainment systems should be nothing but a dumb terminal into your phone. We already have devices with voice recognition, navigation, multimedia, etc. Why don't we have a way to just use that?

geodel 6y ago

I mean I can understand how stupid siri is. I find it so irritating that I always keep it disabled. But the point that anything Apple doing bad is for the lack of spending is hilarious. In fact I'd say Apple is just keeping spending money instead of shutting it down. When IBM Watson AI sank like turd in market it cut funding and let most of team go. I think Apple doing same might be more sensible.

defaultname 6y ago
I think Siri is intended to be more goal oriented. I use it extensively, with very little complaint, daily- -set alarm -next song -set timer -set reminder (e.g. "Siri set reminder 6pm close garage door") -send message to <person> These comprise 99% of what I would want it to do, and it does it marvelously.
- iamatworknow 6y ago
  Same here. I replaced the few Alexa devices in my house with Homepods over the last year and have notice no difference in how well they work because I don't use them for anything particularly complicated, and I don't _want_ to use them for any more than that. The only thing Siri seems to mess up for my usage is not interpreting things I put on my shopping list correctly, but usually in a way that's still recognizable (like "milk this'll").
Lewton 6y ago
> I find it so irritating that I always keep it disabled. Ah, if there only was a way to disable it fully. Even when I disable Siri, it still randomly decides to call people when I boil a pot of rice

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