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Land lines are mostly gone where I live, Sweden. I don't really know anyone who uses then, of course they do still exist due to some alarm systems and so on. A

by sandos 6y ago

Land lines are mostly gone where I live, Sweden. I don't really know anyone who uses then, of course they do still exist due to some alarm systems and so on. As for ripping out the physical service entirely, I don't have any numbers but I saw the lists from 2020 and 2021 and they are huge. So it is clearly happening. And they have been doing this for quite a few years.

teekert 6y ago
Where I live (the Netherlands) all landlines (copper) have been replaced by fiber, I still call them landlines. I guess OP does too? If you mean landlines for Phones: The fiber can handle that, and does, but people are indeed dropping their telephone-number-for-a-house subscription in favor of individual cell phones (and my Phone is generally on WLAN-call when I'm at home, so it use the fiber as well). My parents in law were the last ones I knew with a house-based phone number and they dropped it this year. That said, I think you still get a house-telephone-number for free with many internet subscriptions and the ISP's modems have ports for Phones on them, so indeed the landlines as defined still exists, but it's a matter of definition.
- tremon 6y ago
  Where I live (the Netherlands) all landlines (copper) have been replaced by fiber Do you have a source for this? All I can find is this quote [0], which is a long way off from "all landlines": > nearly 1 in 2 homes in the 25 largest cities will have KPN FTTH access by the end of 2021. [0] https://glasvezelnieuws.blogspot.com/2021/04/kpn-op-schema-met-glasvezel.html https://glasvezelnieuws.blogspot.com/2021/04/kpn-op-schema-m...
  - teekert 6y ago
    Maybe I should have specified, "in my city", indeed, when the concentration of people drops, people are still on copper or on satellite or other wireless alternatives. The point is, the country is investing in fiber: Landlines. Allthough this may change when we blanked the country with 5G towers. Already I have 60/60 mbit in my home via 4G, approaching my current 100/100 fiber subscription. Not sure which is going to scale better in the future.

by sandos 6y ago

teekert 6y ago

Where I live (the Netherlands) all landlines (copper) have been replaced by fiber, I still call them landlines. I guess OP does too? If you mean landlines for Phones: The fiber can handle that, and does, but people are indeed dropping their telephone-number-for-a-house subscription in favor of individual cell phones (and my Phone is generally on WLAN-call when I'm at home, so it use the fiber as well). My parents in law were the last ones I knew with a house-based phone number and they dropped it this year. That said, I think you still get a house-telephone-number for free with many internet subscriptions and the ISP's modems have ports for Phones on them, so indeed the landlines as defined still exists, but it's a matter of definition.

tremon 6y ago
Where I live (the Netherlands) all landlines (copper) have been replaced by fiber Do you have a source for this? All I can find is this quote [0], which is a long way off from "all landlines": > nearly 1 in 2 homes in the 25 largest cities will have KPN FTTH access by the end of 2021. [0] https://glasvezelnieuws.blogspot.com/2021/04/kpn-op-schema-met-glasvezel.html https://glasvezelnieuws.blogspot.com/2021/04/kpn-op-schema-m...
- teekert 6y ago
  Maybe I should have specified, "in my city", indeed, when the concentration of people drops, people are still on copper or on satellite or other wireless alternatives. The point is, the country is investing in fiber: Landlines. Allthough this may change when we blanked the country with 5G towers. Already I have 60/60 mbit in my home via 4G, approaching my current 100/100 fiber subscription. Not sure which is going to scale better in the future.