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You have to remember, he did not just commit countless petty crimes, "something negative", he did an armed home invasion. It's hard to emphasize with someone li

You have to remember, he did not just commit countless petty crimes, "something negative", he did an armed home invasion. It's hard to emphasize with someone like that and someone like that won't be missed by most people.

michaelmrose 6y ago
Its rather easy to emphasize with him. You have to breath. He has to breath. Try holding your breath until you absolutely can't do it any longer then imagine someone was keeping you from taking that breath. See trivial. He wasn't killed while doing a home invasion or even because of it. He was wantonly senselessly murdered by someone who figured they could trivially get away with it by being deliberately smothered for over nine entire minutes when he was accused of passing a fake 20. There can be no increase of justice obtained by unjust means, no decency obtained by indecent means, no peace in our streets obtained by unlawful violence by men who have no respect nor love for the law but kill under color of law and degrade and destroy the power of this essential institution to preserve this peace by their actions. You say casually that we wont be missed by most but if we allow this behavior to continue we have a lot to lose and much to miss starting with peace. If the Derek Chauvins, trash in uniform, are allowed to dispense death penalties I cannot imagine why you believe they will reserve their wrath for the especially guilty. Something that ultimately we struggle to accurately judge when given the benefit of careful deliberation and extensive process. There are many more worthy victims than Floyd but if we can't punish his killers for killing him slowly and deliberately I have little hope that they are future victims will receive justice.
p49k 6y ago
Looking at his history, he was clearly someone who was constantly trying to turn his life around and move past the mistakes of his past and become rehabilitated; he actively spent time volunteering and checking himself into places to get help. That should be something that we aim to encourage in society. I'm sure a lot of people affected by the positive impact of his volunteering will miss him.
- Traubenfuchs 6y ago
  There is a comic one can easily find by googling "dindu nuffin comic" that deconstructs your kind of response.
  - pessimizer 6y ago
    Are you earnestly citing A. Wyatt Mann? You should try not to be openly racist in public.
  - p49k 6y ago
    Wow, at least you're not trying to hide your blatant racism by citing a comic made by and celebrated by white supremacists.
    - lostmsu 6y ago
      If white supremacists will start celebrating South Park tomorrow, or it will turn out the scenario authors there are white supremacists, would it instantly make everyone quoting South Park "blatant racists"? Your comment seemed to imply that, which made me feel a strong revulsion.
      - p49k 6y ago
        Did you actually look at the comic in question before writing this comment?
        lostmsu 6y ago
        That should not matter, but I did since you asked. It appears to be a take on BLM movement. BLM is not a race.
dragonwriter 6y ago
> It's hard to emphasize with someone like that and someone like that won't be missed by most people. It either isn’t for most people, or empathy with the victim isn’t necessary for people to see that he was murdered and the murderer should be punished. (I would hope both are true, but from civic standpoint, the latter is probably more important.) https://www.vox.com/22372342/police-reform-derek-chauvin https://www.vox.com/22372342/police-reform-derek-chauvin > The Data for Progress poll asked respondents about another policing issue in the news: Derek Chauvin’s murder trial. Most respondents say he should be found guilty for his role in George Floyd’s death: 68 percent of people feel this way, including 91 percent of Democrats, 63 percent of independents, and 46 percent of Republicans.
Ar-Curunir 6y ago
You also probably won’t be missed by most people either, yet nobody would say your death would be justified.

michaelmrose 6y ago

Its rather easy to emphasize with him. You have to breath. He has to breath. Try holding your breath until you absolutely can't do it any longer then imagine someone was keeping you from taking that breath. See trivial. He wasn't killed while doing a home invasion or even because of it. He was wantonly senselessly murdered by someone who figured they could trivially get away with it by being deliberately smothered for over nine entire minutes when he was accused of passing a fake 20. There can be no increase of justice obtained by unjust means, no decency obtained by indecent means, no peace in our streets obtained by unlawful violence by men who have no respect nor love for the law but kill under color of law and degrade and destroy the power of this essential institution to preserve this peace by their actions. You say casually that we wont be missed by most but if we allow this behavior to continue we have a lot to lose and much to miss starting with peace. If the Derek Chauvins, trash in uniform, are allowed to dispense death penalties I cannot imagine why you believe they will reserve their wrath for the especially guilty. Something that ultimately we struggle to accurately judge when given the benefit of careful deliberation and extensive process. There are many more worthy victims than Floyd but if we can't punish his killers for killing him slowly and deliberately I have little hope that they are future victims will receive justice.

p49k 6y ago

Looking at his history, he was clearly someone who was constantly trying to turn his life around and move past the mistakes of his past and become rehabilitated; he actively spent time volunteering and checking himself into places to get help. That should be something that we aim to encourage in society. I'm sure a lot of people affected by the positive impact of his volunteering will miss him.

Traubenfuchs 6y ago
There is a comic one can easily find by googling "dindu nuffin comic" that deconstructs your kind of response.
- pessimizer 6y ago
  Are you earnestly citing A. Wyatt Mann? You should try not to be openly racist in public.
- p49k 6y ago
  Wow, at least you're not trying to hide your blatant racism by citing a comic made by and celebrated by white supremacists.
  - lostmsu 6y ago
    If white supremacists will start celebrating South Park tomorrow, or it will turn out the scenario authors there are white supremacists, would it instantly make everyone quoting South Park "blatant racists"? Your comment seemed to imply that, which made me feel a strong revulsion.
    - p49k 6y ago
      Did you actually look at the comic in question before writing this comment?
      - lostmsu 6y ago
        That should not matter, but I did since you asked. It appears to be a take on BLM movement. BLM is not a race.

dragonwriter 6y ago

> It's hard to emphasize with someone like that and someone like that won't be missed by most people. It either isn’t for most people, or empathy with the victim isn’t necessary for people to see that he was murdered and the murderer should be punished. (I would hope both are true, but from civic standpoint, the latter is probably more important.) https://www.vox.com/22372342/police-reform-derek-chauvin https://www.vox.com/22372342/police-reform-derek-chauvin > The Data for Progress poll asked respondents about another policing issue in the news: Derek Chauvin’s murder trial. Most respondents say he should be found guilty for his role in George Floyd’s death: 68 percent of people feel this way, including 91 percent of Democrats, 63 percent of independents, and 46 percent of Republicans.

Ar-Curunir 6y ago

You also probably won’t be missed by most people either, yet nobody would say your death would be justified.