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> 7. He Won’t Go to the Movies The reasoning behind this, that everyone is going to have a place big enough for a great home cinema setup is laughably privile

> 7. He Won’t Go to the Movies The reasoning behind this, that everyone is going to have a place big enough for a great home cinema setup is laughably privileged and off the mark. Such a huge amount of people live in absolutely tiny places with neigbours that mean the audio and video could never be a decent home cinema.

schwartzworld 6y ago
Hard disagree from me. Large TVs have gotten so cheap and movies are so expensive. We found one of our TVs on the curb for free, and it’s miles ahead of what we watched tv on when I was a kid. Who can afford to go to the movies on the regular but not afford a tv? And I know, cheap TVs aren’t what you meant by “decent home cinema” but for many people a 60-75” tv with a midrange soundbar (or decent headphones) is plenty. Both those things can be had secondhand. Obviously below a certain income level it’s still not doable, but I can’t imagine being so poor I couldn’t afford a secondhand tv but still willing to drop $15 on admission then pay $8 for a popcorn.
- perryizgr8 6y ago
  I think this prediction is laughable. There are many people around the world who absolutely cannot afford a high quality picture and sound system at home, but can easily pay the occasional price of a movie ticket. Example in India. The average ticket price in a high-end movie theater is ₹239 ($3.18), most tickets are priced way below that [1]. The cheapest 4k 55" TVs I can find on amazon.in cost around ₹35,000 ($466)[2]. And these units will have the absolute crappiest screens and even worse sound. Anything smaller and you won't have a screen big enough to replace the theater-going experience. I think your perception is distorted by the extreme high price of movie tickets where you live ($15 would be insane here). However TV prices are comparable. So obviously the TV looks more attractive to you. [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/319496/movie-ticket-price-theater-type-india/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/319496/movie-ticket-pric... [2] https://www.amazon.in/AmazonBasics-127cm-inch-Ultra-Smart/dp/B087JYBBSR/ https://www.amazon.in/AmazonBasics-127cm-inch-Ultra-Smart/dp...
- donatj 6y ago
  I have a 65” TV and a great 5.1 surround sound system and it’s still incomparable to the feeling of actually being in the cinema with my vision filled and body rumbling, it’s like comparing the experience of an electric bicycle to a Harley. What’s more, the context switch alone is worth it. In the cinema my job is to watch the film. At home I’m thinking about chores and checking my phone. It’s not remotely the same.
- bruiseralmighty 6y ago
  Don't you have to pay extra for the movie anyways? I recall Disney recently charged a movie ticket price for the showing of their latest princess movie. At that point, you are really only saving on snacks. I agree that that's not thing, but its not as if buying the TV grants you the cost of admission to the movie as well. I don't own a TV and I still go to theaters for the occasional movie. I've always felt that I got my moneys worth when going out to the theater. Plus, having a large TV mounted somewhere is just another piece of furniture that I have to account for. I think a home theater system makes sense for a diminishing segment of the population. A theater is cheaper if you are only interested in major releases.
  - schwartzworld 6y ago
    > Don't you have to pay extra for the movie anyways? If you want to watch relatively recent movies you might have to pay extra, but not per viewer as you do in a theater.
    - bruiseralmighty 6y ago
      I guess it does bring down the cost of the movie ticket overall.
theshrike79 6y ago
Our 55" TV with a 5.1 sound bar setup is more than enough. Unlimited pee breaks, snacks and comfy seating. No need to dress up (or at all). Compare that to a 20-30 minute car trip one way + parking + walking to theatre, expensive snacks, loud-as-shit misbehaving kids interrupting the movie etc. We've paid for every single Disney+ "premium release" and haven't regretted a second. I don't think we're going to a movie theatre as a family ever again - as long as there's a simultaneous digital release. I'll go solo to see my AAA R-rated blockbusters if cinemas ever open again.
davidkuennen 6y ago
I don't think going to the movies is mainly about the pictures and sound. At least it was never for me. I think it's about the atmosphere and the event with friends, family or partner. It's just different watching a movie in the theater vs watching it at home. That's why I don't think it will go away anytime soon.
leetcrew 6y ago
so for one thing, it really depends whether "great" means "loud" to you. I personally find the levels in most theaters to be uncomfortably loud, but maybe I'm just lame. unless you need to feel the floor shake, it's totally doable to have a great home theater experience in an apartment. $2000 can get you a pretty nice 55-60" tv and a capable audio system to go with it. $2000 is a lot of money for some people, but each movie outing for two is going to run $25+ these days. and this is for enthusiasts. a "just okay" HD setup is more like $500. I kinda suspect it will be more like a CD-quality audio situation. is 1411 kbps PCM better than a 128 kbps AAC? yes, but for most people it doesn't outweigh the convenience of being able to stream on your phone. and people have shitty earbuds anyway because they don't care.

schwartzworld 6y ago

Hard disagree from me. Large TVs have gotten so cheap and movies are so expensive. We found one of our TVs on the curb for free, and it’s miles ahead of what we watched tv on when I was a kid. Who can afford to go to the movies on the regular but not afford a tv? And I know, cheap TVs aren’t what you meant by “decent home cinema” but for many people a 60-75” tv with a midrange soundbar (or decent headphones) is plenty. Both those things can be had secondhand. Obviously below a certain income level it’s still not doable, but I can’t imagine being so poor I couldn’t afford a secondhand tv but still willing to drop $15 on admission then pay $8 for a popcorn.

perryizgr8 6y ago
I think this prediction is laughable. There are many people around the world who absolutely cannot afford a high quality picture and sound system at home, but can easily pay the occasional price of a movie ticket. Example in India. The average ticket price in a high-end movie theater is ₹239 ($3.18), most tickets are priced way below that [1]. The cheapest 4k 55" TVs I can find on amazon.in cost around ₹35,000 ($466)[2]. And these units will have the absolute crappiest screens and even worse sound. Anything smaller and you won't have a screen big enough to replace the theater-going experience. I think your perception is distorted by the extreme high price of movie tickets where you live ($15 would be insane here). However TV prices are comparable. So obviously the TV looks more attractive to you. [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/319496/movie-ticket-price-theater-type-india/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/319496/movie-ticket-pric... [2] https://www.amazon.in/AmazonBasics-127cm-inch-Ultra-Smart/dp/B087JYBBSR/ https://www.amazon.in/AmazonBasics-127cm-inch-Ultra-Smart/dp...
donatj 6y ago
I have a 65” TV and a great 5.1 surround sound system and it’s still incomparable to the feeling of actually being in the cinema with my vision filled and body rumbling, it’s like comparing the experience of an electric bicycle to a Harley. What’s more, the context switch alone is worth it. In the cinema my job is to watch the film. At home I’m thinking about chores and checking my phone. It’s not remotely the same.
bruiseralmighty 6y ago
Don't you have to pay extra for the movie anyways? I recall Disney recently charged a movie ticket price for the showing of their latest princess movie. At that point, you are really only saving on snacks. I agree that that's not thing, but its not as if buying the TV grants you the cost of admission to the movie as well. I don't own a TV and I still go to theaters for the occasional movie. I've always felt that I got my moneys worth when going out to the theater. Plus, having a large TV mounted somewhere is just another piece of furniture that I have to account for. I think a home theater system makes sense for a diminishing segment of the population. A theater is cheaper if you are only interested in major releases.
- schwartzworld 6y ago
  > Don't you have to pay extra for the movie anyways? If you want to watch relatively recent movies you might have to pay extra, but not per viewer as you do in a theater.
  - bruiseralmighty 6y ago
    I guess it does bring down the cost of the movie ticket overall.

theshrike79 6y ago

Our 55" TV with a 5.1 sound bar setup is more than enough. Unlimited pee breaks, snacks and comfy seating. No need to dress up (or at all). Compare that to a 20-30 minute car trip one way + parking + walking to theatre, expensive snacks, loud-as-shit misbehaving kids interrupting the movie etc. We've paid for every single Disney+ "premium release" and haven't regretted a second. I don't think we're going to a movie theatre as a family ever again - as long as there's a simultaneous digital release. I'll go solo to see my AAA R-rated blockbusters if cinemas ever open again.

davidkuennen 6y ago

I don't think going to the movies is mainly about the pictures and sound. At least it was never for me. I think it's about the atmosphere and the event with friends, family or partner. It's just different watching a movie in the theater vs watching it at home. That's why I don't think it will go away anytime soon.

leetcrew 6y ago

so for one thing, it really depends whether "great" means "loud" to you. I personally find the levels in most theaters to be uncomfortably loud, but maybe I'm just lame. unless you need to feel the floor shake, it's totally doable to have a great home theater experience in an apartment. $2000 can get you a pretty nice 55-60" tv and a capable audio system to go with it. $2000 is a lot of money for some people, but each movie outing for two is going to run $25+ these days. and this is for enthusiasts. a "just okay" HD setup is more like $500. I kinda suspect it will be more like a CD-quality audio situation. is 1411 kbps PCM better than a 128 kbps AAC? yes, but for most people it doesn't outweigh the convenience of being able to stream on your phone. and people have shitty earbuds anyway because they don't care.