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"I ain't do no drugs" acceptable english to this author "I ate too many drugs" something nobody says according to this author. I have spent time in drug harm

"I ain't do no drugs" acceptable english to this author "I ate too many drugs" something nobody says according to this author. I have spent time in drug harm reduction. The phrase "I ate too many drugs" I have heard more than once. Especially in online drug communities This author tries really hard to prove that he didn't say "I ate too many drugs" to the point of absurdity. Who knows what he said? Nobody really. There isn't a reason to conjure reasons to pidgenhole a dead man's words to fit a narrative Especially considering one of the two things isnt even factual if you read the autopsy. Floyd definitely was incredibly intoxicated

neolog 5y ago
I can't find the phrase on google. https://www.google.com/search?q=%22I+ate+too+many+drugs%22+-Floyd https://www.google.com/search?q=%22I+ate+too+many+drugs%22+-...
- Proven 5y ago
  Maybe that's because don't want to find it (which is why you have that "I" in the query) https://vidmax.com/video/103748-car-stopped-on-highway-driver-ate-too-many-drugs https://vidmax.com/video/103748-car-stopped-on-highway-drive...
- argvargc 5y ago
  Maybe time to switch? Loads of results on DuckDuckGo
  - tom_mellior 5y ago
    Loads of results on both Google and DuckDuckGo. But they all seem to reference the alleged George Floyd quote, so meh. Strangely, limiting the search by date doesn't work for me on either Google or DuckDuckGo: Limiting the search to before May 24, 2020 still shows tons of obviously current news sites and tweets. This is surprisingly useless.
- deleted 5y ago
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- FreshFries 5y ago
  I get "About 8’370 results (0.71 seconds)" when I click your link. Seems something is broken on your side.
  - neolog 5y ago
    Did you look at the actual pages?
Ar-Curunir 5y ago
I have literally never heard anyone say "I ate too many drugs". Also, even if Floyd said that, he did not deserve to be killed. In this position the police literally have guns and tasers. They have the physical and tactical advantage over a "intoxicated" person. To then kill the person they're supposed to detain is incompetence at best (unlikely), and malice at worst (much more likely).
- austincheney 5y ago
  > he did not deserve to be killed. Nobody is suggesting anything remotely close to that.
  - WA 5y ago
    Many people (on Twitter) are suggesting exactly that. They say "see, he was an erratic intoxicated drug addict, he didn't die because of the police officer. He died because of an overdose."
    - throwaway894345 5y ago
      You can find any ridiculous opinion on Twitter. Why rebut Twitter opinions out of the blue in the middle of an HN thread?
    - austincheney 5y ago
      Don't care, this isn't Twitter. Twitter is a mosh pit.
    - Leparamour 5y ago
      Death as a consequence from a self-inflicted drug overdose isn't a question of morals. The fentanyl surely doesn't care if the user is black and underprivileged or not. Besides that, Floyd almost killed himself with an overdose of opioids a month earlier. This was cofirmed by his partner with the telling nickname "Momma".[1] Also there is the bodycam footage from 2019 during which Floyd cadmitted he swallowed his stash of drugs to hide them from the cops. Suffering from an overdose once more.[2] There appears to be a pattern. [1]https://apnews.com/article/derek-chauvin-trial-day-4-live-updates-c07446515f2bf6b8b45d56cdf6810d67 https://apnews.com/article/derek-chauvin-trial-day-4-live-up... [2]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-race-georgefloyd-idUSKBN2B82AO https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-race-georgefloyd-idUS...
Cthulhu_ 5y ago
New account coming in to explain what a murder victim may or may not have said and whether or not he was on something. Devil's advocate? Does it matter whether he was under the influence? Is that an offense punishable by summary curbside execution through suffocation? What's your angle? What's your actual opinion on the case?
- Thorentis 5y ago
  The article posted goes out of its way to "prove" he said something that meant he didn't do drugs. So clearly it does matter very much.
bArray 5y ago
> This author tries really hard to prove that he didn't say "I ate too many drugs" to the point of absurdity. Who knows what he said? Nobody really. There isn't a reason to conjure reasons to pidgenhole a dead man's words to fit a narrative Yeah, I don't think anybody can reasonably interpret exactly what Floyd said under the influence of drugs, given the quality of the video. Hearing it two different times I came to two different conclusions, depending on the setup following up the clip. Many people I've asked have heard it both ways too - it's simply too borderline. > Especially considering one of the two things isnt even factual if you read the autopsy. Floyd definitely was incredibly intoxicated Exactly. I think the number was something like four times the lethal amount and there is video evidence that he was foaming at the mouth. In any case, if he said "I ain't do no drugs", it was clearly a lie given the drug dealer in his car (refusing to be a witness) and the high levels of drugs found in his bloodstream - the same type that almost killed him previously. If he said "I ate too many drugs", then it's just an admittance of the state he was clearly in from the evidence seen so far. In any case, I don't see how it helps the prosecution in the Floyd trial. I'm going to wait out for more evidence of course. In any case, I will be annoyed if after having had the opportunity to present all available evidence and an independent jury has reviewed it - if there are violent protests/riots in reaction to whatever the verdict is.
monkeydreams 5y ago
So a man, while he is being crushed by police, will suddenly think "Wow, my head is spinning, it must have been all those drugs I ate." and then verbalise the thought? Or was he denying the rationalisation used for his suffucation? I think context matters here a lot, and occams razor suggests that a man being attacked by police officers because he is supposedly on drugs will deny the drug taking, rather than invent a whole new category of problem for himself.
- grumpyautist 5y ago
  Attacked by police? He was out of the car by his own request. Also have you seen the footage from the store? There is no alleged about his intoxication level.
  - monkeydreams 5y ago
    OK, my mistake. But let's review that context - when faced with police officers is an offender going to increase their culpability and add a new culpability into the mix or are they going to seek to keep their punishment exposure to a minimum? "I ate too" vs "I ain't do".... The linguist actually has a point here. It is more likely the second option, again, because to assume the first is to imagine a new entity (in this case, a separate rationalisation outside of the context of the interaction). As to why you might be seeking to dispute such a moot point (as the question of the case isn't whether Floyd was intoxiated)... I leave that as a problem for the reader.

neolog 5y ago

I can't find the phrase on google. https://www.google.com/search?q=%22I+ate+too+many+drugs%22+-Floyd https://www.google.com/search?q=%22I+ate+too+many+drugs%22+-...

Proven 5y ago
Maybe that's because don't want to find it (which is why you have that "I" in the query) https://vidmax.com/video/103748-car-stopped-on-highway-driver-ate-too-many-drugs https://vidmax.com/video/103748-car-stopped-on-highway-drive...
argvargc 5y ago
Maybe time to switch? Loads of results on DuckDuckGo
- tom_mellior 5y ago
  Loads of results on both Google and DuckDuckGo. But they all seem to reference the alleged George Floyd quote, so meh. Strangely, limiting the search by date doesn't work for me on either Google or DuckDuckGo: Limiting the search to before May 24, 2020 still shows tons of obviously current news sites and tweets. This is surprisingly useless.
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FreshFries 5y ago
I get "About 8’370 results (0.71 seconds)" when I click your link. Seems something is broken on your side.
- neolog 5y ago
  Did you look at the actual pages?

Ar-Curunir 5y ago

I have literally never heard anyone say "I ate too many drugs". Also, even if Floyd said that, he did not deserve to be killed. In this position the police literally have guns and tasers. They have the physical and tactical advantage over a "intoxicated" person. To then kill the person they're supposed to detain is incompetence at best (unlikely), and malice at worst (much more likely).

austincheney 5y ago
> he did not deserve to be killed. Nobody is suggesting anything remotely close to that.
- WA 5y ago
  Many people (on Twitter) are suggesting exactly that. They say "see, he was an erratic intoxicated drug addict, he didn't die because of the police officer. He died because of an overdose."
  - throwaway894345 5y ago
    You can find any ridiculous opinion on Twitter. Why rebut Twitter opinions out of the blue in the middle of an HN thread?
  - austincheney 5y ago
    Don't care, this isn't Twitter. Twitter is a mosh pit.
  - Leparamour 5y ago
    Death as a consequence from a self-inflicted drug overdose isn't a question of morals. The fentanyl surely doesn't care if the user is black and underprivileged or not. Besides that, Floyd almost killed himself with an overdose of opioids a month earlier. This was cofirmed by his partner with the telling nickname "Momma".[1] Also there is the bodycam footage from 2019 during which Floyd cadmitted he swallowed his stash of drugs to hide them from the cops. Suffering from an overdose once more.[2] There appears to be a pattern. [1]https://apnews.com/article/derek-chauvin-trial-day-4-live-updates-c07446515f2bf6b8b45d56cdf6810d67 https://apnews.com/article/derek-chauvin-trial-day-4-live-up... [2]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-race-georgefloyd-idUSKBN2B82AO https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-race-georgefloyd-idUS...

Cthulhu_ 5y ago

New account coming in to explain what a murder victim may or may not have said and whether or not he was on something. Devil's advocate? Does it matter whether he was under the influence? Is that an offense punishable by summary curbside execution through suffocation? What's your angle? What's your actual opinion on the case?

Thorentis 5y ago
The article posted goes out of its way to "prove" he said something that meant he didn't do drugs. So clearly it does matter very much.

bArray 5y ago

> This author tries really hard to prove that he didn't say "I ate too many drugs" to the point of absurdity. Who knows what he said? Nobody really. There isn't a reason to conjure reasons to pidgenhole a dead man's words to fit a narrative Yeah, I don't think anybody can reasonably interpret exactly what Floyd said under the influence of drugs, given the quality of the video. Hearing it two different times I came to two different conclusions, depending on the setup following up the clip. Many people I've asked have heard it both ways too - it's simply too borderline. > Especially considering one of the two things isnt even factual if you read the autopsy. Floyd definitely was incredibly intoxicated Exactly. I think the number was something like four times the lethal amount and there is video evidence that he was foaming at the mouth. In any case, if he said "I ain't do no drugs", it was clearly a lie given the drug dealer in his car (refusing to be a witness) and the high levels of drugs found in his bloodstream - the same type that almost killed him previously. If he said "I ate too many drugs", then it's just an admittance of the state he was clearly in from the evidence seen so far. In any case, I don't see how it helps the prosecution in the Floyd trial. I'm going to wait out for more evidence of course. In any case, I will be annoyed if after having had the opportunity to present all available evidence and an independent jury has reviewed it - if there are violent protests/riots in reaction to whatever the verdict is.

monkeydreams 5y ago

So a man, while he is being crushed by police, will suddenly think "Wow, my head is spinning, it must have been all those drugs I ate." and then verbalise the thought? Or was he denying the rationalisation used for his suffucation? I think context matters here a lot, and occams razor suggests that a man being attacked by police officers because he is supposedly on drugs will deny the drug taking, rather than invent a whole new category of problem for himself.

grumpyautist 5y ago
Attacked by police? He was out of the car by his own request. Also have you seen the footage from the store? There is no alleged about his intoxication level.
- monkeydreams 5y ago
  OK, my mistake. But let's review that context - when faced with police officers is an offender going to increase their culpability and add a new culpability into the mix or are they going to seek to keep their punishment exposure to a minimum? "I ate too" vs "I ain't do".... The linguist actually has a point here. It is more likely the second option, again, because to assume the first is to imagine a new entity (in this case, a separate rationalisation outside of the context of the interaction). As to why you might be seeking to dispute such a moot point (as the question of the case isn't whether Floyd was intoxiated)... I leave that as a problem for the reader.