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I agree with Syonyk here. And since you bring up quality of vision, I'll note that I do have 20/20 vision because I'm wearing prescription glasses. > You are l

I agree with Syonyk here. And since you bring up quality of vision, I'll note that I do have 20/20 vision because I'm wearing prescription glasses. > You are like a color blind person exclaiming there is no difference between green and red! There is. You're arguing against a complete strawman here. The key point that Syonyk was making is this: > I won't argue that if you pick your content carefully, and know exactly what to look for, you can tell the difference. If you're watching a nature documentary or anything else that puts an emphasis on the visuals, people are going to notice the difference by themselves. But most of the stuff we watch doesn't focus on visuals, it focuses on narrative. If I'm watching a legal drama, I don't really care if I can count the hairs in the lawyer's nostril or not. Again, I'll probably be able to tell apart the 4K version from the 1080p version from the 720p version of the lawyer's face's closeup, but even if I watch just the 720p version, it won't significantly impact my enjoyment of the narrative.

michaelmrose 6y ago
Although its not one singular person arguing I can't help but feel like the goal posts are pretty mobile here. First goalpost high dpi video is already outside the range of human perception. > I think we're hitting the point with video resolution that music CDs hit with audio, where improvements in fidelity are largely outside the range of human perception. Second goalpost ok its not but its really close > I won't argue that if you pick your content carefully, and know exactly what to look for, you can tell the difference. But, practically speaking, most people watching a decently encoded video won't see a huge difference from 1080p to 4k at typical screen sizes and viewing distances, and will see even less difference going to 8k. Third goal post ok its actually clearly discernible but I mostly care about the story anyway. > But most of the stuff we watch doesn't focus on visuals, it focuses on narrative. If I'm watching a legal drama, I don't really care if I can count the hairs in the lawyer's nostril or not. Believe it or not but some people said the same about HD vs SD towards the beginning. It was complete bullshit then too. I too enjoy the story and psychological drama but its not books on tape. Film and TV are a visual medium wherein being able to see the world more clearly adds to the experience.
- Talanes 6y ago
  Well of course presenting three seperate people's ideas, some of whom are refuting each other, as one continuous argument will come out looking ridiculous.
  - michaelmrose 6y ago
    The first guy is a gentleman with bad eyesight watching a 43" tv from 16 feet away. If he watches it from any further away he wont be able to tell if its on. The second is inaccurate. The third is a complete cop out.

michaelmrose 6y ago

Although its not one singular person arguing I can't help but feel like the goal posts are pretty mobile here. First goalpost high dpi video is already outside the range of human perception. > I think we're hitting the point with video resolution that music CDs hit with audio, where improvements in fidelity are largely outside the range of human perception. Second goalpost ok its not but its really close > I won't argue that if you pick your content carefully, and know exactly what to look for, you can tell the difference. But, practically speaking, most people watching a decently encoded video won't see a huge difference from 1080p to 4k at typical screen sizes and viewing distances, and will see even less difference going to 8k. Third goal post ok its actually clearly discernible but I mostly care about the story anyway. > But most of the stuff we watch doesn't focus on visuals, it focuses on narrative. If I'm watching a legal drama, I don't really care if I can count the hairs in the lawyer's nostril or not. Believe it or not but some people said the same about HD vs SD towards the beginning. It was complete bullshit then too. I too enjoy the story and psychological drama but its not books on tape. Film and TV are a visual medium wherein being able to see the world more clearly adds to the experience.

Talanes 6y ago
Well of course presenting three seperate people's ideas, some of whom are refuting each other, as one continuous argument will come out looking ridiculous.
- michaelmrose 6y ago
  The first guy is a gentleman with bad eyesight watching a 43" tv from 16 feet away. If he watches it from any further away he wont be able to tell if its on. The second is inaccurate. The third is a complete cop out.